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			<title>RIP Bob Loveless</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:36:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My condolences friend...may he rest in peace.</description>
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			<title>The m/c shop</title>
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			<description>New Bike on the block. 
Patrol is 2 wheel drive. 
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			<title>Detox Your Body</title>
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			<title>SHTF gun whats your ideal gun?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:29:46 GMT</pubDate>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">How'd the private sale thing go for you? <br />
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I gave up on the notion since it seems that anyone who's legit will keep records on the sale. In that case you are only one or two degrees of separation away from being identified. <br />
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And BTW, I don't blame anyone for keeping records. I might do the same since the "decent guy" I sell it to could sell it to a schmuck who gets it stolen and doesn't report it. Then a trace comes to me first.</div>
			
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</div>I buy (and have for years) quite a few private sales guns. Sometime with a BoS and sometimes without. I rarely sell a gun except back to the person from whom I purchased it...to me they are like land, buy whenever you can and sell only when you absolutely must (though I have had the same bad luck as many I meet online with boating mishaps).<br />
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It is known at the gun club and among some folks in town that I will usually buy a decent gun at a little more than one can get from the pawn shop and allow a person to buy it back within 90 days for about 10% more than I paid. All perfectly legal here and hasn't caused a problem in the 20 years I have been doing it.<br />
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As far as the OP's question...I don't really have a favorite SHTF gun and have trouble imagining a scenario where I would have to choose only one. I will assume we are speaking of a long gun...since my G19 is as much a part of my wardrobe as shoes are (and I have tender feet). It still comes down to scenario though on long gun. If I am in stationary defense and for some reason must choose one, it would probably be the Saiga 12 for pure power and assortment of amo. If I must take off in the woods carrying my ammo, it would most likely be the Saiga .223/5.56. My emergency, always in the car, get me back to my guns weapon is a Kel-tec Sub2000 folding carbine in 9MM that lives in a laptop case in my car with mags that are capable of sharing with the G19.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></div>

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			<title>E-book Reader</title>
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			<description>iPad,I really like the features</description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Well, it's about time, 'Wolf!!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:28:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am also trying my hand at canning, and pickling  did a jar of peppers and one of okra.  
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			<title>Into the Iron Age,Arrow point.</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:51:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by sticks65)--- 
Grinder?,you can make them with files Bro. 
  
Making them by hand is half the fun. 
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				<div style="font-style:italic">Grinder?,you can make them with files Bro.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Guns I wish I'd never let go of?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:26:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[---Quote (Originally by Hispeedal2)--- 
DF,  
  
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				<div style="font-style:italic">DF, <br />
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You have any clue what I give for one of these? Possibly a limb. Now you've made me sad.<br />
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I've hunted high and low trying to find a rimfire/shotty combo. That is a niche not currently filled if any gun makers are listening.</div>
			
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</div>They are not cheap. The second firearm I owned was one of these. Gun Broker has several to choose from.<br />
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<font color="red">I tried to link it but failed, just go to gun broker and search "savage o/u"</font><br />
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			<title>Kelty Packs</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:55:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I haven't used them before and would lime to have a separate one from the bag that I carry my school books in when I go for hikes and such.  Has...]]></description>
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			<title>This thread Will never die!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:33:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I managed to get to Harper&#8217;s Ferry, <st1:city w:st="on">Manassas</st1:city>, and  <st1:place w:st="on">Antietam</st1:place> battlefields.  With all...]]></description>
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			<title>Ron Paul said what: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</title>
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			<title>Plastic v/s Metal Ammo Cans</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:02:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I think both offer a number of advantages; it's probably depends on what your requirements are.]]></description>
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			<title>Men: What do you shave with?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:53:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by happyhunter42)--- 
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				<div style="font-style:italic">I use catridges, but not because I want to. The wife and kids will not speak to me if I let it get long. Haven't talked to them in about 2 weeks now:evil:</div>
			
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			<title>A view through time.</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:55:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[---Quote (Originally by jungatheart)--- 
You sure wouldn't with these guys around.  
  
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				<div style="font-style:italic">You sure wouldn't with these guys around. <br />
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			<title>The One thing no one plans to store!</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>---Quote (Originally by cdnboy66)--- 
interesting post, 
I would just like to add that love does not mean allowing yourself to be a victim to others....</description>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">interesting post,<br />
I would just like to add that love does not mean allowing yourself to be a victim to others. In fact I would argue that you must practice primary self care so that you are able to love others.<br />
and compassion does not mean placing others before yourself, primary responders know that you must first of all ensure your own safety so that you are able to offer assitance to others<br />
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Even the biblical statement of doing unto others as you would do unto yourself can be interpreted to mean look after yourself first, then others.<br />
 <br />
But I agree, we ( read I) need to have more compassion for others. It is a timely reminder that compassion is a choice than can be made on a daily basis out of love<br />
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Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,<br />
Twas grace my fears relieved.</div>
			
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</div>[applaud]Very eloquently said.  That is the direction we were trying to go in with this post.  Thanks for completing our thought!  <br />
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That's the kind of spirit we are looking for in people to join our community.<br />
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