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This is a discussion on Extensive First Aid Kit? within the Medicine forum, part of the Survival - Preparedness - SHTF category; Hi Folks, A good friend of mine (and a fellow prepper) asked me where he could find a really complete ...
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06-24-2011, 08:02 PM
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| Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Utah
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|  Extensive First Aid Kit? A good friend of mine (and a fellow prepper) asked me where he could find a really complete first aid kit. He wants one with sutures, needles, antibiotics etc. All the stuff you would need if you were really on your own and had to DIY it. Do any of you know of such a kit? Thanks, Bill |
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06-24-2011, 08:40 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Central NC-usa
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| There are several such first aid kits available but the knowledge to use them is much more valuable. Have him get an EMT (and above) course under his belt. My first aid kit is in an Aluminum cargo shipping container that has ample supplies for many people. My auto/BO kit has just the basics. Just picked up @ 100 rolls of adhesive gauze and "scads" of 4X4s at a flea market. A close relative just gave me a good supply of IVs and sutures. Am going to have to reorganize the "kit" into two--one for minor wounds and the other for serious stuff. Just a side note--a couple of boxes of ladies sanitary napkins make wonderful "battle dressings". Add to what ever skills/experience you have a Special Forces field surgery manual and a veternarian's guide to surgery. A physician's desk guide to meds is another good resource. |
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06-24-2011, 09:27 PM
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| Born Loser Site Supporter  | Yes, the skills to go with the kit are more important than anything else. I suggest buying the components separate since complete "kits" are far too expensive for what is inside. If he really wants to buy a kit and spend the cash, I suggest on YouTube. He might even learn a thing or two. Personally, I buy my own products and build my own kit. Sutures, gauze, scissors, tape, antibacterial, tampons, butterfly closures, pressure dressings --all of these can be purchased online rather cheap. For a bag to fit it all into, I like Cheaperthandirt.com for molle gear. They have an excellent medic bag that fits onto backpacks and a smaller version for a tactical vest, too.
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06-24-2011, 10:57 PM
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| Albus Mortis Site Supporter  | I'm with broker. I bought a couple of bags and bought supplies to stock them.
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06-27-2011, 12:07 PM
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| Senior Member Site Supporter  Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: WV
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| A good basic start to a kit is one of these. USGI Style Surgical Kit ~ Old Sarge's Drop Zone - Dunkirk, New York - (716) 203-7221 As others have said it's best to build one yourself and a lot less expensive. |
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06-27-2011, 01:55 PM
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| Mojo Maker  Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Eastern NC
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| A better question might be what do you stock in an extensive first aide kit... How many of what items?
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06-27-2011, 03:15 PM
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| backwoodsman | you know the ladies sanitary pads were originally wound dressings for the military they just found out they had other uses....lol i dont keep a huge kit, just a small one in my pack but its got a lot in it gauze, ace wraps, plaster of paris, bandaids, iodine, ointments, athletic and wound tape, ladies napkins and 4x4 wound pads. so far thats been more than enuff for me but its not like i dont have other supplies in the closet  |
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07-08-2011, 08:42 AM
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| Active Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas
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| Well, "extensive" could mean different things. For example, hundreds of assorted types of bandaids as compared to a tin assorted bandaids. Are we talking about simple first aid for minor injuries or "extensive" care? Most of us think of first aid as something pertaining to minor wounds and burns and stings, etc. First aid is the FIRST aid one will get regardless of the type of injury. The way I see it is "First Aid" comes in layers and the aid required will be dictated by the injury. What we "preppers" need to do is rethink "first aid" by going into trauma and even surgical packs. Sure, a first aid kit is fine and dandy. I would wager that most of us know how to deal with bee stings and cuts and scrapes. But, do we all know how to reset that broken arm? After all, what first aid does one receive for a broken arm? Cold packs...Sling...pain relievers. But how do you set it? How do you make a cast? What if the bone has broken the skin? What about multiple fractures of the same bone? So you see, first aid comes in layers. A bullet hole in the upper arm without bone or artery damage is a fairly simple fix. But one will need an "extensive" kit for a bullet that has smashed bone or penetrated vitals. Extensive? Here's my list of medical supplies (and the list still grows): Bleeding cheat sheets Wound cheat sheets Medications cheat sheets Fractures and Sprains cheat sheets Safety pins Clean and sealed bed sheets Thermometers (95 to 105 degrees Fahrenheit) triangular bandages 2 pair 4 in. EMT shears Antibiotic ointment packets 20 cc irrigation syringe with 18 gauge tip Laerdal® CPR face shield 5 x 9 in. trauma pad 8 x 10 in. trauma pad Sterile scrub brush Topical over the counter anesthetic Antiseptic wipes 3 in. elastic bandages with Velcro® closure 1 x 4 in. stockinette tubular bandage 1 x 3 in. adhesive fabric bandages Adhesive fabric knuckle bandages Pkg. of 10 0.25 x 4 in. wound closure strips Sterile eye pads 2 x 2 in. sterile gauze dressing (2 per pkg.) 4 x 4 in. sterile gauze dressing (2 per pkg.) 3 x 4 in. sterile non-adherent dressing 3 in. non-sterile conforming gauze bandages 4 x 7 in. non-woven adhesive bandage 3 x 5 in. molefoam sheet 4 x 7 in. moleskin sheets 2 x 1.5 in. Spenco 2nd Skin dressing 1 in. x 10 yards cloth tape Nitrile gloves with bag and hand wipes Cotton tip applicators Splinter picker or tick remover forceps Tincture of benzoin topical skin adhesive vials Povidone iodine solution Pencils, legal pads to make notes 4 x 36 in. SAM® splint Roll of duct tape Burn Gel with Lidocaine 1 oz. packet Sting and itch relief wipes Cortisone cream packets Dentemp temporary filling mixture Oral hydration salts Glutose paste packet Waterproof matches Combat dressings Petroleum gauze Plastic bags, ziplock Band-Aids - assorted sizes and shapes Elastoplast dressing Steristrips - assorted sizes Tincture of Benzoin Roller (elasticated + cotton) bandages (2in/4in/6in) Cotton balls Paper tape (1/2 in/1in) Sleek tape (1/2in/1in) Oropharyngeal airways BP cuff Stethoscope Otoscope Light source Heavy duty scissors Space blanket Air splints (arm/long-leg/short-leg) SAM splints Plaster of Paris (or fiberglass) roller bandages (4in/6in) Multidip. urine test strips Pregnancy test kits Sterile and unsterile latex gloves Sm eye magnet Snake bite kit (for those of you unlucky enough to have them :-)) IV Kit
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08-31-2011, 10:36 PM
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| Member Join Date: May 2011
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| my 2 cents i would take at least a first aid course from the red cross. i agree wholeheartedly that knowledge is paramount . take a emt course and/or paramedic course if possible. then you need to think about your kit. who will it be for? what kind of things can you anticipate needing it for? remember multiple uses for things.many lists on the net, even tactical first aid kits What to keep in your tactical first aid kit there is a list for like a shelter/ alot of folks and i can't seem to find it just now. i will post it when i find it. another hint is look at what catalogs list in their kits and and use that as a list and go buy it cheaper yourself like at walmart or something . and get a good bag to put it in . i have one of my kits in a tool box i bought brand new at walmart for about 5 bucks and it works good. |
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09-01-2011, 04:18 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western washington
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| A friend of mine bought a kit from Militia of Montana that was a good start and seemed user friendly. The have a web site so you can look it up. |
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