no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murder

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  1. MbRodge
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    One more example of our eroding freedom. This could easily be one of us who has a greenhouse or an indoor fishtank vegetable/herb terrarium.

    http://athousandcuts.org/2008/06/04/tragedy-and-injustice-in-chesapeake/?



    Not surprisingly, Ryan Frederick was indicted by a grand jury yesterday for capital murder:
    A Chesapeake grand jury indicted the 28-year-old Portlock man Tuesday on charges of capital murder, use of a firearm during the commission of murder and manufacturing marijuana. Frederick is accused of “willfully, deliberately and premeditatedly” killing Detective Jarrod Shivers the night of Jan. 17 while Shivers and more than a dozen other officers executed a drug search warrant.
    Keep in mind, prosecutors hadn’t sought a capital murder charge against Frederick; the grand jury upgraded it from first-degree murder. The more serious charge means the state can seek the death penalty against Frederick.

    So many things have gone wrong with this case from the outset:
    • The warrant was served on a tip that Frederick was running a massive pot-growing operation in his garage, but all the police found was a small amount of marijuana and no plants. However, Frederick, an avid amateur gardener, did have some young Japanese maples growing under lights, which do bear some resemblance to marijuana plants.
    • Frederick’s home had been broken into just a few days before the police raid.
    • Oh, and the informant whose tip led to the warrant? He committed the burglary on Frederick’s home. He also had credit card fraud charges pending against him, which were dropped just days before the raid.
    So based on information from a guy who broke into Frederick’s house and was facing jail time, the police busted in on the home of a man with no criminal record and had just dealt with a burglary, and the end result is a dead cop and another man facing lethal injection.
    Radley Balko summarizes more absurdities from the DA’s office:
    Special Prosecutor Paul Ebert pushed the unlikely theory yesterday that Frederick looked out his window, saw several police officers about to break into his home, heard them announce themselves as police, decided to shoot and kill just one of them, then surrendered. This is a guy who friends, former employers, neighbors and family describe as harmless and unconfrontational to the point of being meek. The idea that he’d knowingly kill a cop over a few joints is absurd.
    Frederick had a job he enjoyed, a record of steady employment and strong recommendations from supervisors, and he’d just gotten engaged. Again, hardly the profile of a cop killer with a death wish.
    The felony marijuana charge is even less comprehensible, apparently hinging on the fact that the police found equipment which can be used for indoor marijuana growing operations. Just as a wire coat hanger can be used to break into a car, I suppose. Does that make us all guilty of conspiracy to commit auto theft?
    The police performed little due diligence on their tip about Frederick: no controlled buys to determine if he was dealing, no observation of unusual traffic or activity in front of his house. Their background check revealed only traffic tickets. Yet this was enough for them to break down his door at night.
    It’s clear from all the charges they’ve thrown against him that the Chesapeake prosecutors are seeking a plea deal with Frederick. That’s the saddest part of this very sad case. Based on what we know so far, Ryan Frederick doesn’t deserve death for his actions, or even life in prison. He doesn’t deserve to be in jail at all. The police performed one of their most dangerous actions, a no-knock raid, based on very little evidence, and one of their officers was killed when the homeowner, quite understandably, chose to defend himself.
    The only possible bright side to this injustice is that the public in Chesapeake is not siding blindly with the cops. They are asking questions and wondering why the authorities won’t answer them. One can only hope this same skepticism will extend to the jury that will hear Frederick’s case.
  2. ghrit
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    Is there a defense fund set up yet? This needs help, or the rest of the story (if any) told.
  3. Blackjack
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    FUBAR
  4. monkeyman
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    I hope he walks and have to say I think if anyone should do time for it it should be the judge who issued a no-knock warrant and or the brass who told the officers to serve it. Thats one thing that scares the hell out of me because I know if a no-knock warrant ever came up on my place I would be screwed, theres nothing illegal for them to find but it would most likely be a shootout with the first one in the door BECAUSE I DONT get into criminal activity and so if my door flies off the hinges and a guy with a gun charges in Im NOT gonna be thinking 'cops', I would be thinking 'killer, must protect family'.
  5. Tackleberry
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    x2
  6. Seacowboys
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. I feel bad that a cop lost his life doing his duty but the method chosen has its risks. I too, would shoot first and then sort it out.
  7. monkeyman
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    I think for all elected judges this neds to become a prerequisit question of how they fel about no-knock warrents and in what situations they would issue them and if they would issue them upon request as with a standard warrent then they need to be campaigned against and get these judges off the bench. Maybe if we can get rid of enouph of the idiot judges who approve these warrents then we can let the rest of them know they are unacceptable and curb this crap before it gets more inocent folks killed.
  8. FireRanger939584
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    I would have to agree, recently in my area there was an home invasion where three people entered the home and fired off several shots as they broke through the door. Hmmm, a lot of times entry teams will use a shotgun to blow the locks and/or hinges on a door to make ramming easier. So if I heard shots, and my front door is flying in with no yelling of police or warrant, then yeah somebody's gonna be getting my bullets in them.
  9. BAT1
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    x3 For every action, an opposite and equal reaction. Kick my castle door in, I'll use the castle doctrine. Bum rap. They have kidnapped him.
  10. monkeyman
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    Re: no-knock warrant gets cop killed, man charged with murde

    I have heard of to many cases of people doing home invasions yelling that they were police or some similar like search warrant to keep from being shot or give them more advantage. Knowing that Im not a criminal (not to mention a bit hard of hearing and also likely to not have shouts register as quick as actions) Im not sure I would wait to shoot based on a shout of 'police, search warrant' or some such and deffinatly would not be dissarming untill I was sure they WERE cops which would likely mean they would start shooting 'the guy with a gun pointed at them' (aka me) and then who ever shoots worse dies at least and likely more.

    I suppose I could see some very limited situations where a no knock warrant would be a good idea or even the only viable option (KNOWN hostage situation, or armed fugative where surprise is a must and they KNOW for SURE the person is there) but their common use scares the hell out of me.

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