Up on the internet tower today......

Discussion in 'Survival Communications' started by TnAndy, Jan 31, 2012.


  1. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Put this tower up about 10 years ago, had wireless internet from a local provider. Local provider went downhill to the point it was useless, and I had to switch over to much crappier DSL thru the phone company....like 500k tops.

    But recently, a neighbor of mine needed high speed to work at home, so we got a cable connection on the other side of the mountain on a buddy of mine's place, ran it thru a wireless link from the cable router to a transceiver on the tower ( put up today ), and down to the valley on our side of the mountain.....YEAH !.....15 meg connection when the cable company finishes their install at my buddy's. Coming soon to my house, 21st Century internet !

    Tower (pic from years ago)

    ry%3D480

    Looking out from top of the tower toward the foothills leading up to the mountains.

    ry%3D480

    100' up, looking down to the base.

    ry%3D480


    Looking east into North Carolina.

    ry%3D480

    Looking down into my valley....my place is at the base of the mountain. The tower is the upper end of my property.

    ry%3D480
     
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  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    You need to put a WebCam up on that Tower.... Now that would be WAY Cool.... ..... YMMV....
     
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  3. weegrannymush

    weegrannymush Monkey+

    FABULOUS pics! Wow, what a place to live! I just hope the tower, "towering" above the hills, doesn't act as a signpost to the maddening horde that folks live nearby! Always the pessimist, that's moi!
     
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  4. carly28043

    carly28043 Monkey+

    Completely amazing view.
     
  5. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    TnAndy. Hey, you may want to put an aircraft warning light up there !
     
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  6. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Looks like beautiful country, what type of trees are those in your area. I'm used to seeing evergreen (fir and conifer) trees.
     
  7. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    You're probably not far from that view or one similar to it. Go to Asheville and head towards Sam's Gap on 23; bang a left at Erwin on 107, then 351, then 70 back to 23. You can get lost in those mountains for a while if you wanted to.

    I used to ride my bike through there when I went to ETSU.
     
  8. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Yep.....those mountains.
     
  9. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Mostly red and chestnut oak up around the tower. Some evergreen down the mountain.
     
  10. carly28043

    carly28043 Monkey+

    Not far at all. About 45 min.
     
  11. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Actually, the top of the tower is barely above tree top level, so if aircraft are that low, they have other problems.

    Notice the tops of the trees on the north side.....I'm barely 15-20' above them.

    ry%3D400

    From the more populated side of the county, you can't even see the tower unless you know exactly where to look.
     
  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Not Lighting, is Required, IF the tower does NOT exceed the local surrounding Trees, by more than 25 Ft. Assuming that the tower itself, is less than 200 Ft Tall. Also, no FAA Notification is required, if you meet the above conditions.

    Still think you are missing a Bet, for not putting a WebCam up there.... .....
     
  13. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Hey Bruce....I dug out some pics from the early years of construction..around 2003/04.....here's a few:


    Hauling my Miller Bobcat up there to weld stuff:

    ry%3D480

    From the work landing area right below the top looking up to the tower base. The tower itself sits just below the crest of the ridge. My property goes to the crest, but the way the rock worked out, that was about as close as I could get the base, and still have room to work being on my side of the ridge.

    ry%3D480

    Tower base. Built a "rock box" for the base out of some big square tubing, and 4" pipe, lined the inside with chain link fence, then pile rock inside for ballast. No way to get concrete up there, so this was the solution I came up with.

    ry%3D480

    Tower base closeup: The first section of the tower (50') is a surplus aviation tower that came from a local airport...real heavy duty thing, legs are 3" pipe, about 40" apart in a triangle. The base metal it sits on is a hunk of 3/4" plate, which is welded to the pipe in the back. That 4"pipe sits inside a short stub of 5" pipe so the base hinges on that collar. Then the 3/4 plate was drilled and bolted to the two 4" pipes welded to the rockbox base ( center and forward )

    The heavy tower was assembled laying down the hill, the the whole thing tilted up into place using my dozer and tractor. The lightweight sections of the tower were hauled up and assembled later using a gin pole deal.

    ry%3D480

    Since basically there is nothing BUT rock up there, I didn't have a way to drill out for something to hold the ground end of the guy wires, so this was the solution: Build 3 of these "mats" out of 4" pipe ( found a real deal on pipe at a scrapyard ), weld a turnbuckle to it as shown, scoop out the deepest hole I could with the dozer, slide the mat in place and cover with as much rock as possible. Seems to have worked out fine. Real "seat of the pants" engineering, huh ? A cobble's dream come true.... ahahahahaaaa

    ry%3D480
     
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  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Very Nice Andy.... [applaud] If you would, maybe you could show the Antennas and Electronic Hardware that is used, to make the Internet Connection.
    I think a lot of bush folks, would be interested in how that was done. [yack]
    I have built some Remote Site Internet connections, for folks in similar situations.
     
  15. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    And TODAY, the cable guys came, and we now have 6 Meg speed.....about 10 time better than DSL ! I can actually watch a 4 minute You-tube in real time rather than waiting 20 minutes on it to trickle in.
     
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  16. Redneck Rebel

    Redneck Rebel Monkey++

    When I lived in rural NW Ohio we used a company called MetaLINK that built towers in each town where DSL and Cable were unavailable, and then each subscribers home had a receiver. Wasn't quite as fast as DSL but it sure as heck was better than earthlink dial up. Downside was the 900mhz frequency they made those in town use, interference out the yang. The outlying homes were sold 2.4ghz receivers.
     
  17. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    RR, I wonder who engineered that system? They should have done just the opposite. Used 900 Mhz for the furthest Links, and used 2.4 Ghz, for the in-town local stuff. Oh well, Just one of those things.... YMMV....
     
  18. Marco Montana

    Marco Montana Monkey+

    Damn I hope you were tethered when you took those pictures?
     
  19. Redneck Rebel

    Redneck Rebel Monkey++

    Maybe I have it mixed up, I've been known to be backwards on occassion [booze]
     
  20. dataman19

    dataman19 Monkey+

    The Wimax 802.14 method is to use 5.8GHz interlink and 2.4GHz subscriber.
    ...
    900MHz is gone for reliable wireless (too many electric blender remotes to deal with)...
    ...
    Dave
    Phoenix, AZ
     
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