Michelle 'dissin The Flag

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by CATO, Jul 25, 2012.


  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  2. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

     
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Remember, it's nationalistic pride that emboldened the Third Reich with its campaign to dominate the world. Remember, it was called "patriotic" to support unconstitutional wars of aggression without a declaration of war by Congress. One could support the troops without supporting the pre-emptive strikes and occupation of third world countries, if only more people could realize the danger in patriotic fervor to avoid falling in step with party line rhetoric. Michelle Obama is not a patriot; she is not even a role model. However, this topic strikes me as one which is fallible from the start.

    There are all kinds of flags we can choose to align our feelings of patriotism and commitment without being unpatriotic. The civil flag is a peacetime flag, and it is not associated with the Federal Government. Each State has a flag, and each State is a member of the Union of these United States, a once proud and capable republic. We should not forget the Articles of Confederation and the many troubles we had as a fledgling nation in adopting a single, unified identity. It becomes apparent to me, that it is quite patriotic and very American to not offer allegiance only to a single, federal flag. I can also promise you that these thoughts were not on Michelle Obama's mind.

    It is easy to point a finger at somebody and claim they are not patriotic enough if they do not offer allegiance to a single flag. After studying American history, one might conclude it is very patriotic and American not to offer blind allegiance to the Red-White and Blue. Our allegiance runs deeper than colors and fabric --it exists in the minds and hearts of all those who dare to stand in defiance to tyranny, no matter what flag the tyrant may fly. It is for this reason alone I offer no salute to station, but I will always bow my head in remembrance of those who paid the ultimate price to help secure the blessings of liberty for all free people.
     
  4. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Well I can't read lips. Looks like she said "ahh ma bugga maa dam" to me.
     
  5. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Its funny, I thought it looked like she said you are a fag :eek:
     
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  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    She's such a bluegum....lol
    and what would the Flag of Dixie be ?
     
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  7. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Don't know about Dixie these days, but the country of West Florida used this flag before becoming part of the United States of America:
    Bonnie Blue Flag.
     
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  8. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    take yer pick sir. battle. flags.


    personally, I am a fan ole Miss Bonnie Blue. Hoorah for the Bonnie Blue flag that bears the single star. Hoorah, hoorah, for southern rights hoorah!
     
  9. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    A brief history lesson about Dixie...

    “DIXIE” has come to be synonymous with the South, especially the central deep South. Many wrongly believe the term came from the Civil War; or, as we here refer to it, “The War of Yankee Aggression”.
    Way back, a century or more before those tragic events, as pioneers, colonialists, farmers, mountain men, trappers, & traders pushed westward, to & then through St. Louis, there were no roads. Louisiana, especially the “Isle d’Orleans” was, alternatively, a French or Spanish colonial city. There was no “national currency”; but value was in precious metal coinage or promissory “banknotes”. The “notes” issued by the Bank of New Orleans carried the notations “DIX” (French for TEN) in opposite corners; the other corners were marked “10”, meaning ten units of currency.
    Prior to the days of large river steamboats, and for some time afterwards, many crops & goods were carried downriver from the center of the continent on large rafts made of dried tree trunks. Being clumsy, current-carried vessels, these only went one way, downriver. After the cargos were sold to port merchants or consigned to shippers, the rafts were sold for lumber.
    Those who had accompanied the cargos on the rafts were paid in Bank of N.O. “notes”. Mostly of Scotch or English origins, those men spoke no French. So, the French “DIX”, meaning TEN was mispronounced in English, (the correct would have been “DEEE”).
    Their annual adventurous trips to New Orleans became known as “Getting one’s Dixies”, later shortened to “Going to Dixie”.
    Not what you expected...
     
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  10. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Did'nt you guy's declare war on Spain or The U.S.A. ??
     
  11. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Just a quick excerpt from www.anyflag.com - Governor was Spanish, IIRC:

    The first recorded use of the lone star flag dates to 1810. On September 11, 1810 a troop of West Florida dragoons set out for the provincial capitol at Baton Rouge under this flag. They were joined by other republican forces and captured Baton Rouge, imprisoned the Governor and on September 23, 1810 raised their Bonnie Blue flag over the Fort of Baton Rouge. Three days later the president of the West Florida Convention, signed a Declaration of Independence and the flag became the emblem of a new republic. By December 10, the flag of the United States replaced the Bonnie Blue after President Madison issued a proclamation declaring West Florida under the jurisdiction of the Governor of the Louisiana Territory. With this rebellion in mind, this flag was used by the Republic of Texas from 1836 to 1839. On January 9, 1861 the convention of the People of Mississippi adopted an Ordinance of Secession. With this announcement the Bonnie Blue flag was raised over the capitol building in Jackson. Harry McCarthy was so inspired that he wrote a song entitled "The Bonnie Blue Flag" which became the second most popular patriotic song of the Confederacy. The Confederate government did not adopt this flag but the people did and the lone star flags were adopted in some form in five of the southern States that adopted new flags in 1861.
     
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  12. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    It's cool how threads on the Monkey are like shrapnel...you just never know which direction they'll take. While at times it's frustrating . . . you can always count on learning something.
     
  13. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Before 1940, no U.S. flag, civil or military, flew within the forty-eight states except in federal settings and installations. Only state flags did. Since the 1935 institution of Social Security and the Buck Act of 1940, 4 U.S.C.S. Ch. 4 Sec. 104-113, by clever legal maneuvers the feds have entirely circumvented the U.S. Constitution, and have overlaid federal territorial jurisdiction on the sovereign States, bringing them under the admiralty/military jurisdiction of Law Merchant, the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), the law of Creditors and Debtors.
    civilflagphoto.
     
  14. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    Reminded of a quote from Star Wars. "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause."

    You sir will drink the strychnine and ask for more. Trust us. It's good for you.
     
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I am not sure if that was a compliment or something else. I liked it either way. :)
     
  16. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    Just a reflection on the state of the union. Liberty is dying around us and people are only too hungry to lap it up and ask for more. They don't care what garbage they are fed as long as they are fed and you know who is only too happy to feed everyone of them.
     
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  17. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    Just keep feeding the stupid through the tv and internet and the sheep are quiet.
     
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  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Ok...anout...or rather another...

    Another, even more common term in most languages today is the ubiquitous “OK”, meaning agreement or that all is well.
    The sailing ships of yore were prone to many types of accident and were frequently “lost at sea”, sunk, or crashed onto reefs; not to mention piracy losses. A sort of insurance, or “risk pool” evolved for merchant shippers, in which each of several ships was owned by merchant associations. Each would have a portion of the cargo space, usually 1/9 or 1/10, so that if one ship were lost, each merchant lost only that portion of the cargo, rather than losing everything.
    A wharf or pier, especially one running parallel to the bank, is known in French as a “Quai”, pronounced as “KAY”. One French term to indicate where something is located is “Au”, meaning at, very near, or with. "Au" sounds like “O”, or “Oh”.
    Thus, when one’s ship was safely in port and the cargo had been offloaded into the wharf warehouses, the word would go out to members that “Les toutes sont Au Quai”; which was occasion for the members to meet for a little “Au Quai” celebration in the chandler’s office or a port-side tavern.
    This was shortened to the simple “Au Quai”, giving us the worldwide term of today; “OK”.
     
  19. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    If they were on fire I wouldn't waste the urine.
     
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