please advise low grain pistol ammo

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by OldDude49, Jun 27, 2025 at 3:02 PM.

  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    been looking at 185 45 acp and also found some of those x cross very low grain ammo for same...

    I see this trend and all calibers... anyone have experience with these loads???
     
  2. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I bought a couple of boxes of SinterFire Special Duty 155gr hollow points. Have hardly any recoil especially in a 1911 with a 5" barrel, maybe like a 38 special in a large framed revolver. I usually stick with ball but when I went on vacation during the pandemic .. this was the only thing on the small outfitters shelf left.
     
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  3. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    did you like em or not... though... soft shooting can be good... how was the accuracy???

    was thinkin many females are adverse to the recoil of 230 grain... lighter load may work for them
     
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  4. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I was practicing at 5 yards and went through 40 rounds or so. I was hitting the reduced IPSC-CB mostly in the A zone with few just outside of that. Basically the same as I do with 230 grain. Just doing some timed fire with 5 rounds each mag with a mag swap.
    Ran fine in my 1911 but BIL's Glock didn't like it much.
    Powder smelled really chemically outside, not sure how bad it would be in an enclosed range.

    Would i run out and buy some now? No because I usually shoot ball. I do have some 230 grain federal punch HPs that I use for SD carry.
    I haven't tried any of the 185gr stuff. Hopefully others have.
     
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  5. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    I have an ammo can of reloaded .45 with 185g flat nose reloads I bought at a gun show 25 years ago. I've shot maybe 100 rounds of it through the G21, shoots 1" high at 25 yards, only slightly less recoil than 230g ball.
     
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  6. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    hmm... interesting Norma just had a sale on low grain defense loads IIRC current price not too bad... gonna try some...

    Dedicated Defense | Norma USA
     
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  7. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    I have reloaded with Hodgdon Titegroup in 38spl., 9mm, 40S&W, and 45 acp. Low charge weights and lower velocities with powder coated lead hollow point cast bullets.
     
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  8. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    you like titegroup powder then?
     
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  9. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    Yes, used it twenty five years ago when I reloaded for an indoor pistol range.
     
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  10. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Thanks for the info
     
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  11. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    Be careful going too low. Back in the 60s the wadcutter hole-puncher crews starting having low power loads blow out the cylinder walls on revolvers because the bullet bridged the cylinder gap for just a hair too long.
     
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  12. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    These were the range reloads that I did 25 years ago with Titegroup;
    All projectiles were the fully copper plated for indoor range use. I had the following;
    38 spl. 125gr.-4.1gr. Titegroup
    9mm 125gr.-4.1gr. Titegroup
    40S&W 180gr.-4.1gr. Titegroup
    45 acp 230gr.-4.1gr. Titegroup
    All these loads were at the starting published loads. I used a Lee Auto disk powder measure with an auto disk that stayed in the measure for the 10,000’s of rounds I loaded.
    I also did 44 spl. 240gr.-4.1gr. Titegroup, but I never sold more than a couple of hundred rounds.
    What I found with Titegroup was that it would operate the heavy recoil springs set up in the 40S&W. handguns back then. I had a Browning HP in a .40 that would not operate with any other fast burning pistol powder. Everyone, including law enforcement liked the reduced loads that Titegroup provided increasing their shooting experience.
    Since I have handguns chambered in all four above cartridges, I will have to recreate these reloads and chronograph them to see what velocities these reloads were shooting at.
     
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  13. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I’d agree with Titegroup. Much cleaner burning than some other options like Unique or Bullseye. I seem to remember good results with Win 231 and .45 acp.
     
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  14. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    An old YouTube channel known as Loads Of Bacon did a lot of videos testing powder coated lead bullets and reduced charge loads in actual gelatin blocks. The author got tired of YouTube deleting his videos, so he went and founded The Reloaders Network There is a lot of real world test in those videos.
     
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  15. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    thanks all is good info IMHO appreciate you taking the time to share!
     
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