Senate zeros NFA tax, and why this is a GOOD Thing!

All right folks, looks like the Senate spent the weekend making back room deals and somehow convinced the illigimate Parliamentarian to zero out the NFA tax on firearms and accessories currently regulated under the NFA act of 1934!
So, why is this a good thing you ask, well, the whole premise of NFA being even remotely constitutional when written back in 34 was that as it stood, everyone including the sitting SCOTUS told them it was unconstitutional unless they changed it from an outright ban, to,.,..................
A TAX!
Now, with the Senate zeroing out the tax, that then makes the entirety of the NFA unconstitutional, null and void, and THAT should scare the shit out of the gun grabbers, it should force SCOTUS hand and strike down the NFA in its entirety, and opens the registry of transferable guns and such, it should also then strike down the GCA of 1968 which builds upon NFA 34, AND revokes the Gun control act of 86 which closed the registry, AND banned imports!

Those idiots are so hell bent on screwing gun owners, they seem to have missed the very thing that settles the fight once and for all, and it forces the hand of SCOTUS who cannot support this infringement now that the tax is no longer applicable, it also destroys the registry which is also outright unconstitutional! If Congress doesn't flinch on this, and it passes through to POTUS to sign, SCOTUS has no choice but to strike it all down as unconstitutional! This would be the most epic win of them all, and the fun controllers would all drop dead of heart attacks or aneurysms over the epic smackdown this would bring them, it means nothing they can say or do, no amount of cash they can spend, absolutely NOTHING they can try will ever put that genie back in the bottle! It means no more NFA, no more tax stamp, no more extra paperwork or fingerprints or extra back ground checks, it opens the registry, and opens up imports, and allows everyone to now own whatever they want and can afford, and it means nobody can challenge it in court, no state can ban or restrict any single part, and it removes Dangerous and Unusual from the list of very limited means of attempting to ban something, which is all but destroyed now!

I expect this to become a YUGE fight, both sides are gonna get serious in this, and the antis will stop at nothing to stem the bleeding they are about to suffer, but in the end, this is the biggest win we could have ever hoped for, and nobody is talking about it, our side is keeping its teeth clenched in a smile, waiting for the lefties to make the biggest mistake they have ever made in this whole fight! Can't wait for the nashing of teeth in the media when they realize what they just did, all because they thought they were screwing the gun owners and the 2A population! Had they simply accepted our terms and removed SBRs SBSs and Silencers, we would have won a small victory, but still had a big fight in front of us later, but now, holy shit, this is YUGE!

Don't count your chickens just yet, I'm certain someone will figure it out before it's too late and try to slip something through that screws us, but it would be too little too late then! The only question then is how big a screw so we get!

Don't forget, they can still fire the Parliamentarian and null and void her work, OR, V.P. JD Vance can override the Senate and push the original bill through in its entirety, ether way, we win!

 

Here we go, as always Mark W. Smith Nailed it!

Yuge Win Incoming!

 

We can only hope so!!!

 

It would be epic, and it's about time that somebody saw it as the totally unconstitutional over-reach that it is.

But there's BIG money in NFA. I'm going to sit back and watch. The Hughes Amendment set up a system that will
pit gun owners against gun owners. Everybody will be picking sides and some will surprise you.

 

Sen. Chris Murphy wants to reduce the tax stamp to just $1.00. Seems he also can see the writing on the wall.

 

It pits the very small group of full auto owners against the rest of us. A registered Colt M16 can well fetch north of $25,000-30,000 dollars. If the NFA is knocked out by SCOTUS, how far will the value of those Colt M16’s drop?

 

My uneducated guess would be ... it could go either way. if now it were easily sellable the demand would increase exponentially which will cause the price to shoot up. Until new FA firearms are available for sale.
How many of us here want to get our hands on one but don't want to deal with the forms and background and have a perm record in the system ... probably most of us.

So shoot to the moon at first and then come back down. Kinda like the beanie baby craze where a 5 dollar chunk of fur went from 50 to 100 to 500 to 5K between 1995-2000 .. now most of them have come way back down.

 

A lot of the older NFA item made decades ago may still hold their intrinsic value, like an original Colt Monitor made back in the 1930’s or a 1919 or Ma-Duece 50bmg, but why would you want to pay the $25-30,000 for an Colt M16 made up to 1986 when you could buy an new FN M4 or Colt M4/M16A1/A2 for $1500.

 

Let us not forget the 80% crowd that can cut a M16 pocket by making adapters to fit the Modulus Arms/80% jigs on a 3d printer or reprogramming a Ghost Gunner. Or completing s 1919/M2 side plate.

 

I still cannot see this nation being able to bury the proverbial hatchet with the current polarization that has reached a boiling point with the leftest/communist that have been brain washed by our so-called public schooling or institutions of higher learning. Everyone here sure can see the future regarding the current cold culture war turning hot.

 

Ssshhhhh! We just don't tell them. Most of them don't know what an NFA item is and probably can't spell it. We slip it right past them and distract them with Glock switches on the six o'clock news... or The View. .

 

Cats outta the bag and the antis are scrambling desperately to stop what they already unleashed, in the case of Sen Murphy pushing to drive the tax down to $1.00 it's too late for them, they don't have the votes and cannot filibuster it, so.....
Unless they fire the Parliamentarian or Vance overturns it and restored the full bill to what his boss demands, we just might win this one!
Not holding my breath though, those sneaky bastards might find a way to kill the thing yet!

At this point, we win ether way it goes, we win if the NFA goes away, or we still win if they fire the bitch and Vance reversed it and we get our delistings, that's big enough on its own, and sends a warning shot across the left bows, even they declares the tax is wrong, and now they flat know that the tax is the only thing holding the NFA in tact, so, they better tread very carefully and play nice, because that genie ain't going back in the bottle now!

 

It's the government. They are going to screw it up. Until it's signed and the supreme court rules .. it's not done.
Even then, if they don't put a federal pre-emption in there ... we got 50 states to fight next.
We are all going to be dead and gone before it gets finalized.

 

So, this passed the Senate intact, only giving us the Win with J.D. Vance casting the 51st vote to break the tie and now send it on to Congress! What's next, does congress put back the full contents of the bill delisting Silencers, Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns, OR do they accept this as delivered from the senate with the Tax Zero'ed out and let it run!
Nobody is talking about THAT, as we now know, with the Tax zero'ed then it forces SCOTUS to respond, and then the question becomes when will they take it up and rule on it? Many believe that will be drawn out for as long as possible, but I don't think so, the reason is, once the tax goes away, anything under the NFA is now "shadow banned" until the issue gets taken up, and that cannot stand! Further, SCOTUS taking it up allows them to also close out several cases now pending in the lower courts and awaiting SCOTUS review!

 

'If the Senate amends a House bill, the bill must be returned to the House for a vote on whether to concur with the Senate's changes. If the House agrees (concurs) with the Senate's amendments, the bill is sent to the President for consideration. If the House does not concur, several outcomes are possible, including the formation of a conference committee to negotiate a compromise.'

So, my guess, the House will make changes to include putting in a $1.00 tax or some other sleight of hand to ensure the NFA remains lawful then they will pat themselves on the back for being good 2nd Amendment supporters. However, under no circumstance will they allow us peons access to automatic firearms...nor I believe SBRs or suppressors. I think that much is obvious now but...maybe I am jaded because they fooled me once already and pissed me off, actually more than once.

 

I'm afraid I don't share your optimism. "forcing the SCOTUS' hand" was already a done deal with the 2nd Amendment, and look how that worked out. If you can manipulate the meaning of "Shall Not Be Infringed" then there's nothing to stop you.

 

Exactly. We all are still under the illusion that the US government must follow the Constitution which in theory is correct; however, in reality they bend and twist and move the letter of the law to do exactly what they want. Plus, no matter what our representatives say, they are quite pleased and content with the NFA and its silly requirements that protects no one and does nothing but waters down the 2nd Amendment.

 

i think since the ndaa was passed we have had a defacto martial law in effect. how did j6 wind up in prison with no due process? call them terrorists. the patriot act is the elephant in the room and im not sure even trump will give up that power. untill then the constitution/bill of rights is moot. i struggle to see all the good every day and constantly remind myself there is 3 1/2 years to go.

 

Unfortunately, even if the “No Tax NFA” does go before the SCOTUS, Thomas and Scalia are the only two that would definitely vote our way. The three Trump picks have been to darned wishy-washy the last five years.