SELLER FINANCE AVAILABLE!!! Own Your Off-Grid Paradise: Prime Lots Perfect for Permaculture & Sel

Used to work for the telephone company 50 + years ago in El Paso doing l3 cable and radio repairs. Drove a lot out in desert around that area and saw many small "communities" that had been laid out and lots sold. Some close enough to expanding areas actually did make it, usually with city water, lot of others failed. Friend I worked with had a couple dozen lots he picked up for back taxes. No roads, no water, may have salt water in ground water, may be difficult to get septic in, top soil may have salt or just be poor. If you want to retire, might be ok, but buyer beware and walk on land and talk to neighbors before you put ant money down. Was some beautiful land north of Alamogordo NM that was forested, most of it Indian land, and a forest fire turned into a horror show. Water rights mean everything in that area until things collapse and then it may get worse as the irrigation canals and such are not maintained. Hundreds of thousands of acres of former farm land in California that is now worthless as LA etc took the water away.

This is a problem that is not going to go away.

As California cracks down on groundwater, what will happen to fallowed farmland?

If you buy land any where for survival or general living purposes, please look at it in person, talk to the neighbors, and talk to the "officials". Here in Southern New Hampshire a lot of the underground water is contaminated and drinking water may be supplied as a result of some court order, That will not last if TSHTF. Don't know what effect it would have on greenhouse, but I use shallow well and basically it is dependent on rainfall.

 

I received a SCAM text today saying the DOT was going to revoke my DL for an unpaid ticket, last chance click and pay it...... I have not had a ticket this century...
Is this scam number two for Monday?
Anyway, many prefer living in areas with trees that are more like this:

 

Are you saying the fence might be designed to keep us in so we can keep paying taxes?

 

El Paso gets about 10 inches of rain fall a year. Considering that it's outside the city limits they pay a higher water rate than inside the city proper. Probably around 100 dollars for a family that uses 3-4k gallons of water a month. They have added fees if you use more than the average and have even/odd watering restrictions.

Maybe for some of you desert dwellers this might be tempting but having a water bill that is only going to go up from now until you pass doesn't sound great. I didn't even know that the ground water may be saline down in Texas. That would suck watering your plants with a salty guerilla well.

 

I've gotten those several times. One had me as ticketed driving in Mass. Never been north of Virginia, and that was in the mid 1980s. My Fla. DL expired in 2017, my vehicle registration expired in 2019. Health problems keep me from driving.
One phone number was out of Turkey, another out of The Congo! I guess scammers are everywhere.

 

I got a text today that just said ,,, BBQ tomorrow,,,, area code was from Kansas ,, little to far for me to go for a BBQ sammich ,,,

 

IT'S .29 ACRES OF F*CKING SAND! IN A F*CKING DESERT! SURROUNDED BY F*CKING MEXICANS!

 

I was at least willing to listen to some things you might have to say about what you are pedaling. Until that is you went off on the "racist" comments and wanting them deleted. I didn't see nor do I suspect anyone here saw anything "racist" being posted. Most doubt what you are pedaling simply because it on face value does not seem legitimate. You are also vehemently defending yourself and posts. If you are legitimate let that stand for itself or post some links for your "business" To me it seems much like all of these recent "females" that show up all excited to be here to further their "knowledge" and posting some discreet photos waiting for some lonely people to send them a PM which is where the real fun begins.

 

Please provide information concerning where the water source originates.

Is the water main already on property, if not on property how far away is it?

Somebody isn't very forth coming with this information.

Again, please provide information about the water source, who is supplying it and is it on the property. If water supply is on the property, what pipe size is the water supply?

 

It's not just here (SV) - scammers abound everywhere

State probing Lakeville housing development aimed at East Africans
"But Nolosha Development does not own the 37-acre parcel, and lacks both a building license and a real estate license, according to state records. "

Abandoned housing development : r/AbandonedPorn
water is always an issue

its not just the desert
Prince George’s zombie subdivisions need to die – Greater Greater Washington

Then is the zoning, land use permits, etc, etc. Utah, Calif and SoAz are full of failed 'land developments' and all the legal hassle that goes with...

Don't part with a penny until you stand on the land itself offered for sale and confirm the seller actually owns what they are selling.

I'll pass on the welcome to the board.

 

I almost bought land in the Arizona desert, until I found out the nice home on 39 acres with "water available" meant towing a 200 gallon tank on a trailer to a well 12 miles away to get water. For a price. At least the tank trailer came with the place...

 

I don't think he's coming back.

 

You make it sound like that is a bad thing.....

 

And don't buy those 5 or 10 acre "ranches" they sell in Montana or Wyoming.

 

BTW - NOT sitting on the edge of Mexico....

6500 W 2000 S, Delta, UT 84624 | MLS #2066119 | Zillow

Approx 38.5 acres west of Hinckley on a county maintained gravel road. This property includes an underground water right so you can drill a private well. You need 1 acre foot of water to qualify for a building permit, so this one can be used for residential use. Large cargo container is included.
$55K or $1400 an acre and water is included - you need to drill a well.

Nearby town has full service hospital, etc.

 

Know of some reasonable priced land in northern NH.. No jobs, bad winters, lots of skeeters in summer, poor road plowing ect, 30 miles to drugstore or decent price store, 50 or so miles to a decent hospital or doctor. Reason the land is cheap. Working man can't find job and retirees don't want to live in near SHTF conditions now. Is even worse in parts of the west.

A quick look at the ad for Hinckley Utah is interesting. The county it is in has a population of about 12,000 for the county, the area was settled by the LDS and while I admire their values and get along with them, it may not suit your needs and they do tend to be a little hard to get to know. The town it is located on the out skirts of Hinckley Utah. It is a few miles from what is described as the lonelyst Highway in the US.

Hinckley, Utah - Wikipedia

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6500-W-2000-S-Delta-UT-84624/2071526569_zpid/

At least it isn't a n hour ride to school like a lot of places in Kansas. 20 minutes on the net can save you a lot of headaches. It looks to be a legit ad for a real piece of property, but might not do for a bug out location as you are in the middle of nowhere with close neighbors who might tend to be a little clanish. Looks like desert weather, hot summers, little rain, and cold winters with no firewood for heat, Little in the way of local shopping or employment. Incomes in the area tend to be low.

 

\Millard County - with Delta Ut being the 'big town' is going through a building boom caused by the Green Energy sector. BTW - Delta is about 3K folks.
see IPP Renewed – Intermountain Power Agency

While the area USED TO BE mostly white Mormons, it is now overrun with illegals brought in by the Ag industry. The Mexicans got pushed out by Peruvian's 'cause they are 'cheaper', which in turn are being pushed by by folks from Ecuador, being cheaper yet.

Walk down the main drag of Delta and you hear more Spanish than anything else. We had 8 acres just outside of Delta - but sold it last year owing to problems with illegals, crime, drugs and all the other crap you find in "Urban" America. A shame actually, I really like the AO.

 

Thanks DKR, shows the importance of boots on the ground. Census, 2020 data, 10,600 of the total population were "white" out of about 12,000 total in Millard county.

https://data.census.gov/profile/Millard_County,_Utah?g=050XX00US49027#populations-and-people

And our statics show Delta as a nice white middle class town with most citizens having jobs and living in nice houses.

Delta, Millard, UT Public Records & Statistics

And Hinckley about 90 % white and about 90 % US citizens.

Hinckley, UT | Data USA

Might be that DKR data is again proof that walk on the land and talk to the neighbors, if they speak English.