This entire incident is very disturbing in many ways. I just can't fathom the hatred a person must have to put forth a plan such as this. It was obviously well planned and carried out. I would ascertain that this person was not alone and there were other people involved to not aid in the planning, positioning and the escape. I think they will ultimately find this person but I'm not too sure about everyone else involved. Unfortunately this is what is happening today. It is clearly presenting the hate and violence the left is willing carryout not only for political assassination but hate against those that believe in the Lord and preach His word. This is evil on different deep levels.
Interesting... You know, a 200 yard shot isn't indicative of being "professional", but getting away clean...kinda is. This video gives us the most recent information.
Let's step back and look at this with the idea it was just some stupid kid that had little if any training. He goes into a gun shop and buys whatever rifle the interwebs told him might do the trick. He then buys a scope and rings and has the shop mount and bore sight it for him, then tells him to go and zero it in at 100 yards like all good hunters do. Ok, it doesn't take too much skill to manage to shoot a group at 100, accurate enough for the task at hand. Figuring that he might need to shoot further, and knowing the rifle should be capable, he stretches it out to what he thinks his skill might allow, ok, so he thinks he is a sniper now, and starts planning his setup, but only has a day or two to walk the scene and decide what he is going to do. The moment arrives, and he has his target in the cross hairs, but he never learned or the interwebs never discussed shooting down hill and how that would effect his shot placement, so, he is aiming for the forehead, but a combo of spindrift/wind plus the downward angle pulls his shot low and left, the opposite of what a strait and level shot should do, (high and right) and we get the neck shot, still a successful kill, but not a clean one, a professional would know better, and would have been able to make that shot, and do it clean!
The idea of a professional shooter seems less then likely, more then likely the above stupid kid. A professional, or at least an experienced shooter would pick a well known and proven rifle, doesn't matter the cost these days, a cheap Savage 110 or Remington 700 from the local shop would do just fine. Caliber is gonna be a more defining choice then the rifle at this point, same as glass, it's still reasonable to assume a cheap Savage with a basic Leupold VX-3 and good quality factory ammo or even Mil-Surp would do the job nicely. A real shooter would be dialed in for any distance and shooting situation they might encounter, especially given the very short span of time needed to decide on the details of making that shot. Assuming the media is correct with the rifle caliber and the photo of the rifle he used, I'm leaning toward stupid kid more and more! As an experienced shooter, I wouldn't have missed a head shot, especially at such a short distance, ( I can shoot sub inch with a .22 at 200 yards) all day long! That kids rifle and caliber at the worst should be capable of a couple inches at 200 yards, which lines up with the results we see, A pro would have known the effects of shooting down hill, and would have known how to read the wind, and would have complete control over the shot, so, was it a buggered shot, or did he intend for the throat shot? All other details say stupid kid, but I think more and more, he wasn't alone! I have more questions then answers at this point, and there needs to be a LOT of changes in how we handle large gatherings while we listen to a person speaking!
Bad aim and bad luck for KI Capture him alive get the info and then he commits suicide in his cell if yo get my drift
Yeah, I agree because this is just plain and simple to us, but there's a lot we don't know, too. An expert could have taken the shot in a rush with an opening, for example the queue which could have been the question posed about the topic on trans shooters. The shot was taken right at that point. This is pure speculation, but if we're speculating, then it would lean more toward a purposeful shot taken just within a few seconds on queue, and an amateur shooter would have had to deal with nerves on that small window of opportunity. And given the position up on the rooftop, that's a decent angle and the shot was obviously in the kill box. This is all speculation right now, but I'm hoping they catch the real shooter and get to the bottom of this. It's not looking hopeful right now. I just keep thinking about how terrible this must be for the family and friends of Charlie and how public this was. The whole country is torn up by this, and they deserve closure.
The antifas and trantifas openly glorify and encourage violence and assassination, and they badly want their own Mangione to boost morale & impede the Trump agenda. The left is vicious, and now they are increasingly desperate and dangerous. You can see this with the tranny issue, the most radicalising violent destructive influence since Islamism. The FBI is offering a $100,000 reward for info, which tells me that they have few leads at this point. Is this killer smarter or better trained than Mangione? The getaway seems professional to me. The two who tried to kill Trump seemed like disposable mkultras, regime tools, not the sharpest ones in the shed, but sometimes effective, like Oswald, Sirhan, Hinkley. This one seems different. According to the DOJ: "On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI." https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267
In the meantime, as we digest this tragic event, Candace (one of Charlie's best friends) leaves us with a heart touching eulogy. I encourage everybody to watch this, it's less than 24 minutes.
the engravings .. if real .. could be used as misdirection as well. Hell, even throw blame on the community while the Kabal watches the news feeds and laughs. Not sure if we will ever know. I actually thought he might stand a chance in a future election for president.
I apologize, I linked the wrong video earlier. (I deleted the other one) This is the one I want. This was about a month ago. Check it out and draw your own conclusions. I'm always thinking about the Zionist angle. Prove me wrong?
Nick is pissed...and rightly so. I think he states clearly all our positions in that no more debate, no more compromise, no more trying to get along, no middle ground...No more trying to show that you are logically wrong. No, no more. You hate us - well - now we hate you, it took a while but now we do...and rest assured we won't go quietly into the night. @Steverino "The most terrifying force of death, comes from the hands of men who wanted to be left alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know, that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the men who just wanted to be left alone.” ― Alexandr Solzhenitsyn My God! This is perfect. It's what has been in my mind all day, but I couldn't put words or form to it. It states exactly what I think, how I feel, I've never seen it before. I will keep this. Thank you very much.
Well, this is interesting... I do hope the FBI pays a visit to this freak and it would not surprise me to see a bunch of them involved with this. Furthermore, if they are involved and given the past shootings then maybe it is time to recognize it for what it is, a true mental illness and possibly dangerous to society.
Not me, not now. Although it's still a possibility...but. Check this out. Kirk was wearing body armor. It appears it was a center mass aimed shot, landed a little high, deflected off his steel plate armor, hit the neck and cranial cavity. At least he didn't suffer. Damn.
I always shoot a bit high when shooting downhill. My thought is he was shooting center mass and it went higher than he thought it would.