Let's talk about semi auto 12 ga magazine feed!

My first weapon in 1996 was a Mossberg 590A1 love that shotgun and still have it today's and it's been 100% reliable.

That's been a few years. During the early 2010 I was not able to pick up a sweet Russian 12 ga. Yet I had hope for the F12 from Typhoon arms I believe I could be wrong. It was a 12 ga semi auto that was an enlarged AR-15 it was popular in England. Yet today I can't find any of there weapons for sale.

So other then buying a Sagia 12 GA and spending more on that then several 12 ga pumps is there another semi auto magazine feed 12 ga out there that is reliable?

In 2005 I was able to use the AA-12 on the Marines I wish I could have one of them! Nothing like full auto 00 buckshot 20 round magazine with almost zero recoil! You could shoot slugs with one hand full auto it took two.

 

Beretta 1301 or A300, Benelli m4, saiga 12 basically eat anything.
Winchester, Remington, Browning, and others make fine hunting 12 gauge autoloaders

 

Yet only one is magazine feed! I want a magazine feed shotgun I'm not looking to hunt birds I'm looking to hunt hogs or humans.

Edited to add no disrespect to the poster at all!

 

Blackgrub. I'm going to tell you right now, Saiga 12 with an extended mag is freaking useless as it hangs out and really throws off the center of gravity and manuverability. I'd really consider taking another look at say an A300 with an extended magazine tube. That sucker will hold 10 rounds of 2.75inch slugs. Seriously, if what ever you are shooting at takes more than 10 rounds to stop .. ya might want to be using an AR15 carbine.
JMHO.

Anyway, even if you got a drum and moved the ammo closer to the receiver .. it's still going to feel clumsy trying to manipulate.

 

Probably pigs. You shoot one and the rest might try to fight you. Seen one get hit by a vehicle and the other ones will try and fight passing traffic.
And they can be big. I saw what I thought was a dead cow next to the road last night near Vernon tx, nope it was a very large hog.
I recommend the S12. The ismash saiga 12 can't be imported any more last time last time I checked. But the Ismash company made a division inside the US called kolasnakof USA and they make 100% made in USA AKs.
Mine is a dirty Russian made one.
Thank Obama for more, better US made AK pattern guns...

 

Just curious if there is a specific reason you are after a magazine/drum fed auto loader vs. a tube fed version?

 

the old venerable Rem 1100s feed flawlessly even with the extended 10 round magazines - heavier than hell - forward tripod and prone position helps with slug accuracy >>> definitely need to watch the heat build up - takes longer to cool down than a reload ....

 

Yeah, the Remington 870 and 1100, will both take the same 10 round tubular magazine extensions, and if that don't kill it try a Claymore Mine or two!

 

I like the JTS shotgun for shooting skeet.

 

I'm thinking Mossberg for pumps, like that sweet 590A1 that you own, or Beretta for semi-autos. Yeah, I know all about the Benelli, but I believe it is waaaay overpriced and Beretta's 1301 has passed it in ergonomics, reliable, and maintenance. I've never seen the AA-12 but don't think I would be interested in a fully automatic shotgun. All-in-all, I would buy a Beretta 1301 in a heartbeat and if you had ever picked one up then you know why. However, I simply cannot justify the expense of one so if I do purchase a shotgun in the near future, it probably will be a pump, most likely a Mossberg, less expensive and will get the job done.

 

For all your uber warrior needs? You may experience a chub doing a mag dump but Hey that's on you!

 

I have a JTS. First 25 rounds I was ready to chunk it in a creek. Now it has worn in and works great. Less than $300 on sale at PSA. BTW, a 10 round 12 gauge mag is Yuuuge!

 

Yeah man, couple boxes to knock the burrs down and it will run, I've shot skeet as a joke with one, Surprised to break clays but it did!

 

As someone who carried a shotgun for a living in some of the nastiest places on earth, I can tell you, a mag fed blaster is about as useless as it gets! The whole idea is the rapid change of shot from one type to another, SHOT to SLUG, to FRAG, to DUSTER, to CABLE in as little time as possible!

There are lots of very good options, but only a couple really work well across the board, today, I would choose a Mossberg 940JM Pro Tactical with extended mag tube and ghost ring rifle sights, second would be a Benelli Super Black Eagle Tactical, third would be the Remington Versa-Max Tactical, and lastly, and my Fav, the OI Winchester Super X2 Tactical!

All that cool guy, tacti-cool crap including detachable mags are flat out USELESS, all that crap can and will fail,, and lost mags mean you now have a single shot, and pistol grips are nothing but wrist brakers and snag hazards!

 

Well, I said I had a JTS as a playtoy. If I really need a shit kicker I grab my 870 Marine Magnum with the extended mag, ghost rings, and Volquartsen extractor.

 

When I downsized my Firearm Collection I chose to keep my personal favorites and the Rock Island on the left made the final cut. 5-10-20-40 round mag options and a decent range of chokes for it. I keep 10 and 20 round mags loaded with 000 buck, #2 shot and #4 shot. Have pair of 40 round drums but just not really practical with the weight 40 shells adds to the rig. Out of the 20 I kept these are my favorites and each one the right tool for specific jobs. What can I say I like Bolts, Lever, and Breach Load. But I do know the value of being able to puke out a wall of buck shot if required. And there in all of his ancient glory is my oldest friend the IDF Issue Galil Then the Henry All Weather .45-70, the .300WM, single shot henry in .500BM, Marlin .22 Mag, Savage .22LR, Henry .30-30, Another fossil a Harrington and Richards single barrel 20gauge (got it for my 13th birthday) then a nice over under 12 gauge, my old savage .22LR, and my personal favorite hunting piece a side by side 2 trigger 20 gauge. Other 8 I kept were stuff like my old Enfield .303 Jungle Carbine and stuff like that. Its on the list to build a much better gun room than the electrical closet LOL. Not the highest end guns but every one of them is rock solid dependable and accurate.

 

I like Benelli's, May give some clays a good flogging now that the English friends have arrived for the holidays!
1 day will be range day for the lads, That's the law!

 

Plus the import legal saigas kinda suck.
They have the fudd stock, that requires the trigger be relocated further back, adding extra linkages and BS to the trigger making the already fair AK trigger even worse. They don't come with a choke.
So converting mine to true AK style with regular semi auto only trigger parts was a huge improvement. A US factory AK trigger is fine for a shotgun imo.
The protruding pistol grip and AK stock moved everything forward restoring balance I didn't know I had lost.
Modified and full chokes made it actually useable for getting birds.
An M4 style collapsible stock makes it a little more handy and you can put a folder on there too if you want. You'll want an aftermarket stock not the dot gov meat hammer m4 stock.

 

They need to make the AA-12 to the public market