Very interesting. In the shadow of the war in Gaza, shifting ideological fault lines and coalitions are redefining the boundaries of progressive politics nationwide. Kathy E. Manning, Yehuda Kurtzer, Batya Ungar-Sargon, and James Kirchick join moderator Bret Stephens in arguing for and against the future of zionism in left-leaning politics. Recorded October 23, 2025 at The 92nd Street Y, New York.
Zionism is NOT a bad thing. Militant Islam IS a bad thing. The political left in the western world made their choice. 'Unlimited' immigration from countries that 'HATE' us. VERY Stupid choice.
Every civilization throughout history that has embraced "diversity" and "multiculturalism" has failed, destroyed from within by the hatred and rot that was allowed to enter and set down foreign roots . Now sadly it is our turn to play the game of destruction. We are well into it.
The 1st protest in this country was over taxes and government control ,,, Years later ,, it was protests over wars,,, Now we've got protests over gender confusion ,, and hate speech ,,, that is nothing more than a difference of opinion,,, " WTF " comes next .
Whether it's "good" or "bad" is for every person to decide, but a fact to consider is who corrupted the Middle East to begin with, and that leads us back to the intelligence agencies and Zionism. The CIA and Mossad are sister organizations, and it's hard to deny just how important this struggle really has become in the world with radical Islamic terror. Funny how it's always funded by the very same structure that promises to rid the world of its existence. This is a dangerous game for dangerous players. Most people truly have no idea and can only speculate based on the effects. I'm trying to shed light on how this all happens and why. The video I linked is particularly interesting because the panel are all Leftists talking about how to best control the situation now that the world has been clued in on the global Zionist agenda. The push-back from the average Citizen has sent them running to their think tanks to come up with a better way to perform damage control and protect the Zionist cause. The fact that the Zionists are reinvigorating their asset control on the Left is quite telling, it means the power structure on the Right is eroding. Of course, the genocide which is ongoing doesn't help matters, but that won't stop them. As long as Israel still has nukes, they will maintain control.
Wait. I would point out that the 'Small End' is justifiable to identify as a 'Big End.' Besides, it is scientifically proven there is no big or little ends. In fact, many identify as 'No End'...just so we are clear and don't insult any of the minority Ends...er, I hope that is clear.
Unfortunately, there are folks of Jewish blood that hate the skin they live. It's easy to spot them, because they never support their own kind, but side with the devil. Soros is at or near the top of that list. Chucky Shumer (Sen) is a prime example, Bernie Sanders is another. GOD has a special place for those types and it isn't Heaven.
Yeah, they are all scumbags. And I don't know about the whole Jewish blood thing unless they are of the Ashkenazi lineage. I could convert to Judaism tomorrow and make some children and would that make them Jewish blood? I suppose it sometimes may be dependent upon the mother, which is paramount in deciding anything Jewdom. All of these Zionists change their names, they take on new names to make them feel like they are chosen. For example, Benjamin Netanyahu (not his birth name) was Benjamin Mileikowsky. They take on names of power or one that has significant meaning. Make of that what you will. “If they’re Black, then it’s a gang. If they’re Italian, it’s a mob, But if they’re Jewish, it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.” - Dave Chappelle
May as well say; Does Islam have a future on this planet? Islam is guilty of Rape, torture, murder of ALL infidels, even their own kind, if yer not the right brand of muslim. Zionism is NOT bad. A particular person is either good or bad. Guess what I'm Saying is Zionism IS Good. Am I good or bad for saying this? Neither, I am what I am, a Human. GOD made me as well as y'all. It's not that difficult to see good from evil. The choice is ours, to choose what direction we go.
,,,,didn't a democrat coin the phrase " pick up a turd from the clean end" rationalisng with irrational folks is a waste of time. iv tried.
I would rather you didn't try to force your opinion on what Zionism is, but I can respect it even if you don't know what Zionism really is -and what I want to make clear is what I've been trying to illustrate. The term Zionism, the definition according to Wikipedia and yourself and every other person out there who doesn't know what I'm getting at is in complete agreement with your assertion. So, as far as all of that goes, you have no argument from me. However, given the fact that I've quite clearly explained that Zionism isn't really what you've been told, you ought to consider not stressing how Zionism is good. Because it's not. At all. I think most of Candace Owens channel in recent weeks covers in great detail how the Zionists have been deeply invested in Christianity, including many very wealthy mega churches and a whole lot of birthing clinics. Essentially, it boils down to sex trafficking, and much more. But please...choose to ignore it all if you wish. Let's not pretend that Zionism is a slur because it's not. Let's also not choose to think that all Zionists are Jews, because they're not. Let's go one step further and say that being a Zionist makes you a patriot in America, or good or just or righteous, because that's ridiculous, too. Therefore, there is no reason to automagically assume that Zionism is the opposite of Islam, because it's not. Zionism is a sinister political movement.
Well, I will truthfully tell you, this confusing the heck out of me. And, maybe @kissmybrass is right and 'I'm trying to "pick up a turd from the clean end" because I sure as hell can't rationalize it.
I can appreciate what's been said. Zion is not what most think it is. It's Not an intel agency, it's not even a group of anything. Want to know what Zion is? Or represents? SEEK GOD to know what Zion really is.
In this day and age, you're not alone on this one. Just one Google search for Gislaine Maxwell's father and his publishing company and ties to U.S. textbooks might even make you want to pull your hair out. Information is vitally important, and whoever gets to write history is one leg up on the rest. Additionally, in this information age, whoever can control what is "true" and "false" and promotes it the best...wins the infowar. Man, the future looks really stark. There's so much money wrapped up in AI and information right now, I can't blame anybody for having trouble figuring all this out. I started back about 30 years ago or so, and that's the only advantage I have. Today it's a quagmire of epic proportions. We've been lied to for so long it is truly sad. All of our schools, much of the internet is a cesspool. The "trusted sources" are all corporations or subsidiaries of organizations and trusts leading back to the same cabal. The only way to make heads or tails of anything is to reach out and try to find independent investigators who do the work, like Ian Carroll or Candace and others like Tucker Carlson. Which is why they are under such heavy attack right now.
Now that's a cool topic. You are welcome to start that one if you like. I'd put it in the religion part of the forum, though. Faith and Religion