What does "range ammo" mean to you?

I'm thinking range ammo probably means whatever they have on sale that week. Is that right? You don't need "the good stuff" for training and practicing.

 

It should probably weigh the same and travel the same speed as your self-defense ammo.
Meaning, 115 grain training ammo is going to have a way different point of impact and recoil than 147 grain self-defense hollow points.
You'll at least want to also train with a decent quantity of self-defense ammo as well.

 

Most range ammo is FMJ, but that's what our military uses, so it will get the job done...just don't use it for hunting.

 

I agree. It's simply cheaper ammo, maybe aluminum or steel casing. Something that you can train eye and hand with that produces good habits and muscle memory. One still should shoot some self-defense loads that they carry and use to fine tune, but the majority or training can be done with cheaper ammo.

 

No tracers or API.

 

I am old hat. When I was in high school and the rifle club used the National Armory to shoot our Springfields in,
the government supplied the rifles and ammo. They used some ammo made for the range, frangible among other things I did not understand or care about. We had to go the supply room each time and get a container of "range ammo" in a sealed box with the supply clerks name and time of issue. It then went to the range safety officer who made sure we had no other ammo and when we got the firing positions range ammo was issued, after shooting, any excess ammo was collected, Odd situation but back plate had been in position since at least WW1 and when we were shooting it was well into Korea and it had no holes. Range was in basement and started at front of building, run under offices and drill floor, big enough for basketball games with spectators, and ran under garage. Have no idea of what length it was, but it was legal for our club to use and to have other clubs shoot with us is competition. Can you imagine what would happen today if you went to your school gym and picked up your school supplied rifle and got on a school bus and had it drive 60 miles on public roads to get to another school and have a rifle target contest? That was normal in early 1950's in rural Minnesota, After a couple years of being on the team, the government gave me the rifle and I still have it. Dad had the bolt bent, easier to use with a scope, and the stock modified while I was in the AF to make it easier to hunt with. Thought he was doing me a big favor and at the time I might of thought so too.

 

They might have been using ammo that didn't have lead bullets, as that would cause problems at an indoor range, also didn't want any ricochets at an indoor range.
You could get a new bolt, or just straighten the old one, also a new stock. It would be almost as good as new, or old.

 

Yes you do, I've picked up shit ammo projectiles without rifling marks, How well do you think this cheap crap performs?

 

Maybe, just maybe, the fault is with the rifle and not the projectile. I bet there are a lot of rifles out there that need to be re-barreled. Maybe some old surplus rifles that has had a lot of corrosive ammo fired through them? Also, a lot of those cheap rifles didn't get the care and cleaning they needed because they were so cheap. Think of SKS, K-98, Enfield, Mosin, etc.

 

And you can't tell the difference? better sell those off and the trigger pull on the ones you named have a sack of potatoes trigger pull!

 

Cheap as you can get, while still being reliable when shooting.
Although, every few range times I will shoot a magazine or 2 of HP. Just to make sure that my firearm has no issues shooting it and it allows me to cycle through the HP that I have stored up.

 

Don't have to worry about cycling through ammo, properly stored ammo will last longer than you will.

 

Eh. I say train with what you use.
If your ammo is too expensive to bust some off at the range then it's too expensive.
For me I used to run speer golddot pistol ammo. Those got to the point where they were just unavailable like 10 months out of the year and they're expensive.
Switched to Hornady xtp and those got expensive and hard to find.
Switched to berry's they can keep them in stock, they're affordable and they work as good as golddots and better than xtp for me.
And I might switch again.
Need to do a shoot off between berry's and probably 3 other bullets.

 

Thinking the copper stripping for the jackets has gone up 70% in one year, Only you rich guys will be shooting soon!

 

Put a watch on Target Sports for Speer. I picked up a case of GD as self defense ammo and Lawman for training. Same weight, same muzzle velocity.

 

My Colt M1991A1 refuses to chamber anything with the Speer brand, factory or reloaded, especially Lawman. Weird but true. Anything else works fine.

 

I like these people for projectiles and the prices i can live with!
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Yeah I load the hell out of their 115gr nuke.
I'm going to do a shoot off between 120gr Idaho silver nuke vs 115gr Winchester silver tip.
Winchester is more than double the price.
I doubt it's going to do anything twice as well as RMR.