...this is worse than you think.

No, no, no... You're going over the edge. Trump said something we all wanted to hear, 'Make America Great Again.' Or, in other words, bring back common sense into our government, quit wasting our money, do what you say, give us our voice back...etc. No politician could do this as they ALL are owned or owe something to someone. None. Trump is not a politician. Also, he is not beholding to the Republican party or anyone because he is independently wealthy. He got pissed when they stole the election, tried to throw him in jail and decided to 'enough is enough' and did something about it and we all followed - gladly. So, it was about the MAGA movement, but every movement needs a face, a leader, a doer. Trump had the credentials and then some.

I liked Charlie Kirk, he was brilliant, and, yeah, he could have been president himself in the future...but not now, even if he lived, not the now, and we needed now exactly what Trump is - an unforgiving wrecking ball, cold, bull in the China shop. Charlie was the future. Trump is the now. I'm not taking anything from Charlie, no way, but Trump has nothing to lose, he's old, he's wealthy and he is a lame duck president. He'll tell the Pope to take a long walk off a short pier. Why? Because he can and has nothing to lose. Trump is exactly who we need right now. I think he's making a huge mistake with the Tucker, Kelly and Owen fallout but...in the end, does it really matter what these 3 people think? Nope. They have no legal power over anything; they don't even buy my coffee. Basically, they are armchair quarterbacks...

The clock is ticking and he is trying to make changes and they sure as hell aren't happening fast enough because there is a logged jam or toll booth at every corner. Personally, I think he is starting to realize he can't do it, especially since Congress is worthless, corrupt and loaded with traitors (Elon Musk now knows) but...he can't stop because he is who he is...thank goodness.

Anyway, personally, I think Turning Point is dying without Charlie's leadership and charisma. MAGA will die without Trump's leadership and cold blooded, no BS, strictly business approach. You simply got to be able to do the required nastiness which is based on loyalty and merit - yes - Don Corleone style, especially since you are dealing with professional politicians. Could or would Vance or Rubio tell the Pope to mind his own business, or we would discuss in detail in front of the entire world how he is 'weak on crime' and 'terrible for foreign policy.' I think not. Of course, it's true but they would not. First and foremost, both are politicians. Second, they don't have the backbone and given the state of the country, they are not harsh enough to do what is necessary, they will try to please everyone, be correct in their approach...and let the Pope continue to criticize and intimidate them.

Anyway, I am not taking anything from Charlie Kirk, he definitely was a huge pillar in the MAGA movement and in the long run he would have been extremely important, probably more important than Trump because of the youth; however, we had to have change now, not tomorrow, to even have a possibility for a future and thankfully Trump was around. It was a close-run thing. If Charlie had lived, could he have taken the MAGA movement forward? Yes, I sure think so. However, with him gone and Trump to be gone...I think MAGA will die along with Turning Point. Sadly, that's how I see it...I believe Trump really wants and is striving for change, but the other two branches are nothing but - well - corrupted entities with the sole purpose to causing roadblocks and eating up time and resources...waiting for Trump to leave office.

 

one assassination could not, did not end a righteous movement. It's the response to the assassination that is the end, wake up calls do nothing if you don't USE THEM.

 

Maybe Trump can run for VP in '28 ,,, not sure if that's legal ,, but it sure would be funny watching them dimotwits freeking out ,,,

 

@Broker @Idahoser I hope you both are correct and the Turning Point movement carries onward; however, being the paranoid pessimist and not seeing anyone even close to the age (allows better bonding with the youth) or the razor-sharp wit of Charlie - well - who is going to lead Turning Point? Yes, it's membership has increased due to Charlie's martyrdom but by the next Presidential election I think we'll see it lacks drive. Without a charismatic leader it's simple another organization like so many others...the Tea Party immediate jumps to mind. Charlie made it for what it is, and I don't think it will survive without him. I do hope I am wrong. Honestly! I hope I am.

"Charlie was in a screaming match with Trump before the first bombing run on Iran."
Charlie Kirk had no input to government policy nor even a security clearance, so I find it a stretch that Trump discuss the bombing of a foreign country with him. I am not saying there wasn't a screaming match, maybe there was, but I question whether it was about Iran. Could it have been? Sure, but it also could have just as easily not have been.

"...it appears his own team conspired to have him taken out, including his own wife."
I don't know enough about this to comment but that is indeed a bold statement. So far, it appears that Tyler Robinson was working alone, at least, I haven't heard anything to the contrary. I've heard of no possible connections to any other organizations, Zionists, Islamists, or etc. He appears to be a lone wolf, transexual loving loony tune. As far as Charlie's wife...bold statement. I did read she is worth much more money now going from $2M to $10M however that can easily be explained given the high visibility of Charlie's murder and the increase attendance and interest of Turning Point. Charlie wasn't anti-Israel he simply was America First, but I did hear he refused to take a more pro-Israel stance, whether that is true, I cannot say. However, killing Charlie would seem to me to be very counterproductive because Trump is very pro-Israel and TP helped put Trump in office as it will help put his successor in office be it Vance or Rubio, also both pro-Israel so... and removal of Charlie made TP weaker not stronger, definitely weaker in the long-term.

Furthermore, we do not see others that have mass followings like Tucker or Owens being murdered or having accidents because they speak out against Israel when Israel is in the wrong. This seems to be a real stretch to me without anything solid to back it up, just seems thin...I mean, two small children together, TP doing well, Charlie is doing well, Trump's in office and sanity is returning, everything they worked towards is happening...and she assists to have him killed?

Anyway, I will watch the video perhaps there is something I am missing in all of this...

 

Interesting video! So, when I criticize Israel, like their influence over Congress or criticize their Prime Minister's action I am now guilty of antisemitism - well - depending on which state you are in or country. Hmm...disturbing. The world is changing and we best be careful about speaking our minds even in an off-handed, non-serious manner less we find ourselves in legal trouble.

I got this off the IHRA website that Tucker is using:
What is antisemitism? | IHRA working definition

"On 26 May 2016, the Plenary in Bucharest decided to:
Adopt the following non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism:
“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

What I did find was while most states do not use the above as their definition, they do frequently reference it. Personally, I find such a vague law disturbing and I couldn't find many specifics about this in any State laws except this:
"State-Level Legislation: Many states have adopted the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism, which helps state agencies, law enforcement, and universities identify and respond to antisemitic discrimination and incidents. For example, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio have advanced legislation to track and report antisemitic incidents."

More of Interest. Now this is much more specific, and I am shocked Tucker and crew miss it:
There is currently a Bill up for vote, 'Antisemitism Awareness Act,' (reintroduced in 2025) is a bipartisan bill aiming to combat antisemitism on college campuses by requiring the Department of Education to use the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism when investigating federal anti-discrimination complaints. While proponents aim to protect Jewish students from discrimination and harassment, opponents, including the ACLU, argue the definition overbroadly targets legitimate political speech, potentially violating First Amendment rights.

I also found this on the IHRA website which I found interesting. In many countries denial of the Holocaust is a criminal act. This is not the case in America but certainly is a law in some countries. I never knew this...:
Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries).

 

1. So, she didn't attend the event because she was threatened. Okay. The woman is pregnant. We know that now so maybe she was afraid for her unborn child? Maybe she was afraid of miscarriage? Maybe she was afraid of aliens kidnapping her? Maybe she was hung over? Who the hell knows! Who the hell cares! Furthermore, it's not our business. TP security said on Fox News 'they can't guarantee your safety' so... Yeah, she stood up the VP and, no, it doesn't sound right but...who knows what is going on. However, imagine if they managed to assassinate Erika Kirk also. Whew! Anyway, to me this is nothing... Was it a lie, probably, I mean she stood up the VP of the United States so... Do we have a right to know why? No, and who really cares or why should we? She didn't want to go, and she didn't so it's on her. My guess? She is done. She wants out of the entire mess. She is not her husband, and she can't hold it together no matter what they want of her.

2. I am confused why Candance thinks it is such a big deal that the event didn't have more attendance. This has nothing to do with Erika. It's simply that Erika is not her husband. Frankly, this proves my point that without Charlie - TP is dying. In fact, this is telling me that TP is dying faster than I thought... Yet, I fail to see what Cadance is so damn excited about. To me, it is sad because I think it will affect the outcome of this country, our future...

3. 23 minutes into this and all I am seeing is Cadance overreacting about this and making a big deal out of nothing. WTH? This makes no damn sense to me so far... Cadance actually sounds like a whacko. I mean, why the hell do we care... TP is dying, this is quite obvious. Hell, let Cadance take Charlie's place and see if she can do better! Honestly, this sounds personal to me. Okay, she doesn't like Erika. Okay, we get it...but who gives a damn? Erika will be gone within 6 months with TP because neither of them are anything without Charlie and it's not their fault. I doubt they will make the midterms.

4. Is Cadance trying to kill TP because she hates Erika Kirk? Sure sounds like it.... Look, I don't have a dog in this fight. I really don't care about Erika Kirk or even TP. I wish them well and hope for the best for her and the organization. Frankly, TP is dead with or without Cadance talking trash about it so...

I stopped watching at the 40-minute mark when she started talking about Victor Marx. My honest take on this video is that it was nothing but a filler, she had to put out something so... I heard nothing that would make me sit up and notice. All I got out of this is Erika lied about not showing up to the event and TP is dying. Got it! No real news there...

Tyler Robinson was captured on camera not shooting but in the area. He also wrote a note which they have. I think he actually admitted to the deed to his parent(s). The rifle belonged to his grandfather. His DNA on the rifle and the ammo. I am not seeing conspiracy. All I am seeing is a damn tragedy of historic significance because of another leftist whacko. Now, I could dig out all the details but the evidence they have sure is incriminating, not a perfect case, but they will get there.

Send me some videos that give me something to think about.

 

I appreciate your views ,, or , proof ,,,
But ,, what is your take on Charlie getting shot ? Do you believe that kid shot Charlie ?
I've read a little on it ,, seen some slo-mo videos that just don't seem to add up . I saw one where Charlie was sitting there ,,,then he's falling to his left ,, at about a 45 degree angle,, and there's no blood splatter ,, no blood spray from an exiting round . The whole thing just doesn't seem right.
And on an unrelated issue ,,what about those 10 or 11 scientists/researchers that were shot and killed that were all studying on the same subject ? You can't tell me that's all a coincidence .

 

I do appreciate you taking the time to write this and I will endeavor to be more open-minded concerning this. Obviously, there is many things I don't know like I didn't know Charlie started TP with Cadance which could explain much of her attitude. Many things seem normal as presented until you look into the details like 9/11, 7/7, even the Kennedy assassination. Anyway, I will look into it more deeply and watch some of Cadance's specific videos on it. I do like her, I like her mind, as I like Tucker and Megan Kelly too.

To be honest, it seemed pretty straight forward to me. I don't remember if he was sitting or standing which doesn't really matter. The shot was downward from a higher angle at ~45 degrees from a heavy hunting round, think it was 30-06, striking the throat from, I think about 150 yards (can't remember but it was close) which would explain the throat shot as it was probably sighted in at 100 yards and the downward angle was ill compensated by the amateur shooter as he tried for a head shot. Blood spray? I really don't have a comment on why or why not. I just don't know. It was so close and the round so powerful you might not have got much especially in the soft tissue; it simply punched through. He dropped like a rock so I assume the spine was hit and a powerful round like the .06 fired so close certainly would have penetrated. I imagine it depends greatly on the type of round. I know they found a fragment from the bullet...which I admit I do find strange as seems they should have found more, given the round, distance, and target. Do I think it smells? A bit but not too bad...The thing is Tyler Robinson as done everything but confessed in court to doing this so...and it does add up in his insane, screwed up trannie way. However, it seems like a typical lack of security more than anything but outside venues are horrible for protection, almost impossible to provide reliable security. In truth, he had none and he should not have done the show. This hurt the country so much more than we realize even now...we'll feel it in the future. Sadly, we all should have realize this would have happened sooner or later with the number of Leftist crazies.

In return and to be fair, I should ask you how you see it, your conclusions and why and how you came to them?

As for the 11 scientists, I have been following this, and it is very disturbing especially since we don't know the connection between them nor have any details been released that point towards foul play but it sure is weird, too weird to swallow whole, and if it's a coincidence then it's a damn big one. I suppose the key is if another scientist has an unfortunate end while we are now all watching this - well - then we will know. If it is not some outlandish coincidence, then there are professionals involved, either state operated or state trained and I would expect the former because to do these so perfectly you would need a lot of details on the individuals, surveillance, information/data (background, health, current relations, etc.), equipment, training and expenses. They are all over the country too. I had a look, tried to find a link but nothing stood out, of course, we have no idea what they were working on or when as all held clearances. We know nothing. I would say that this stinks much more than the Charlie's murder simply by the number of deaths in such a short time. To me, it sounds like murder - more specifically - assassinations. Find the why, the connection between them, and it will tell us the who.

 

Tucker is paid off by the qataris. He is too pro muslim at this point. I am not fond of islamists or zionists and do not appreciate them trying to influence us.

 

It's gonna take a while to go thru that list of info you posted ,,,
I haven't heard ,, and haven't watched those videos yet ,, but has the supposed shooter ever denied shooting him ,,, or just playing the lawyer game,,,

 

If you all want to know all about TPUSA go to Dave Hodges The Common Sense podcast and listen to him. He knows a lot about it. You can search his site pertaining to TPUSA..

 

Is Tucker Carlson leaving US for Qatar? Inside the row over his drift away from MAGA - The Times of India
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I dislike islamists and zionists and their paid shills equally. I am sick of foreigners meddling in our country. I am also sick of us meddling in other countries’ business. Not fully proven but shady enough for me to dislike him.

 

Hamas Patron Qatar Has Spent $6 Billion Lobbying the U.S. Government and Funding Universities

I think we all admit israel buys off US politicians. So does Qatar. So does China.
https://www.opensecrets.org/fara/countries/223

 

All the countries do...and I suppose we do it to other countries too. For us, (USA), I think the worse is China. It sure seems obvious that Gov. Waltz and President Biden are owned by the Chinese. Yeah, I am really sick of all the influence these entities have over our Congress...but then Congress is nothing more than a breeding ground for corruption, a place to get rich and powerful, playground for the elites. Sadly, it will never change...