For what it's worth. I ain't sayin, I just saying.......AE ELRON ELECTRONICS: The Israeli Defense Company That Tallies the Iowa Caucus By Christopher Bollyn The Iowa caucus is only a few days away and the nation's attention will be directed to the results, which signify the beginning of the U.S. presidential race. But does anyone watch who tallies the results of the Iowa caucus? The Iowa caucus results were tallied in 2004 by a company that is headed by a man whose company was bought by Elron Electronics, the Israeli defense firm. I suspect that it will be the same this year. Don't expect to see any grassroots political activists doing the tally in Iowa. The Israeli defense establishment takes care of that part of the American "democratic" election process. VOXEO In the summer of 2004, I first learned that a foreign and out-of-state company using Interactive Voice Response (IVR) technology tallied the Iowa caucus results. The system used to tally the 2004 Iowa caucus results was provided by a company called Voxeo, which was apparently based in Orlando, Florida. Now, who really is Voxeo, and why are the Iowa caucus results tallied by them? I don't know if the 2008 Iowa results will be tallied in the same way, but I wouldn't doubt it. Voxeo is headed by Jonathan Taylor, who is the company's President and CEO. This is what his Voxeo webpage says about him: Jonathan combined his experience in both business operations and technology innovation to found Voxeo in 1999. Under his guidance, Voxeo has seen triple-digit revenue growth for four consecutive years and has been profitable since January, 2004. Prior to Voxeo, Jonathan founded and helped bring three additional software and infrastructure service companies to profitability. From 1995 to 1997, Jonathan was the founder and President of InterResearch and Development Group (IRdg), Inc. IRdg created and licensed iPost - the first internet powered OEM unified messaging solution - to leading telecommunications providers including Ericsson, Motorola and Unisys. IRdg was acquired by Elron Electronic Industries (Nasdq: ELRN) subsidiary MediaGate in 1997. There you have it. Jonathan Taylor's company, which he founded, was taken over by Elron Electronic Industries, the Israeli defense high tech company: In its early days, Elron focused on defense, particularly electronics and avionics, as well as the emerging medical and technology sectors. In 1966, Elron founded Elbit, which combined the expertise of the Ministry of Defense-Research Institute in special computer design with Elron's experience in electronic product design, manufacture and management. Source: http://www.elron.net/default.asp?PageID=203 This is important information that Americans need to know and which they will not find in the Zionist-controlled media in the United States. It needs to be understood that the entire election process in the United States is a fraud. More than that, it is a fraud that is being perpetrated by the Israeli defense establishment on the naïve and gullible American public. The sine qua non of an honest and transparent election process is the open counting of the votes by the voters themselves in each polling station in front of the open eyes of other citizens and members of the media. Any compromise in this most fundamental and essential process which acts to remove the citizenry from the vote-counting process simply cannot be accepted. This is what Americans MUST get back to, in every polling station in the nation: paper ballots that are hand counted in front of the public. Nothing else will do to protect their democratic franchise in the United States - NOTHING. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=116052
Ok I don't get this logic. A company Jonathan Taylor founded was bought out by another company that was founded by another company. So that makes the company Jonathan Taylor currently runs somehow bad ?? So if I worked at Macdonalds back in 1997 then burgerking which was founded by the walmart corp buys out Macdonalds that makes the company I work for now somehow a pawn of walmart ??? This makes no sense. Under the same logic every single company you work for or start yourself is a pawn of the very FIRST company you worked for or start. I'm sorry, but I can guarantee you the first company I worked for (carl's Jr. yes fast food) has nothing to do with what I do now. In fact I can say that I am not a pawn of Carl's Jr. by any stretch of the imagination. Read the Christopher Bollyn rant again.... but this time carefuly and try to make sense of it. See if it all matches up in your head. Question everything especially things you want dearly to be true.
The counting has never presented a problem to me, whether manual or some other way. It is the reporting that gets in the way between count and totalizing.
I think the point of it is that the votes are being counted by a private company rather than by the voters and public persons then tomake it worse the company that is counting them happens to be a foriegn company and to further complicate it that company is tied to the government of a nation we provide a lot of aid to and has issues with nations we are at war with and others we have strained relations with so their government would have reason to want to be sure the next president has foriegn policy ideas that serve them well and since they own the company counting the votes they COULD choose who the next president is since they tell us who got elected based on numbers they come up with. So the problem is simply that there is no transparency allowing the voters to monitor the counting and instead a company with vested intrests in who wins gets to tell us the results.
I'm sure that as soon as a candidate wins that Mr. Bollyn supports then he won't have a problem with Voxeo anymore. The same machines will be used and the same people will count them but it'll suddenly be a non-issue.
You missed the point, read carefuly on Mr. Bollyn's creative associations. He connected the dots on an Israeli company controlling IRDG. But the company that is doing the tallying is Voxeo. [/quote] IRdg was acquired by Elron Electronic Industries (Nasdq: ELRN) subsidiary MediaGate in 1997. There you have it. Jonathan Taylor's company, which he founded, was taken over by Elron Electronic Industries, the Israeli defense high tech company [/quote] The only connection between Voxeo and Israel is the founder of Voxeo Jonathan Taylor. Which has nothing to do with Israel because the Israeli company bought out IRDG AFTER Jonathan Taylor's involvement with it ended. (only till 1997) So if you sold your car 10 years ago to Bob and Bob sold the car to some pedophile does that make you a pedophile too for owning the car 10 years ago ? This is the dis-jointed logic that I'm talking about.
OK, I did misread the article the first time through and understood it that it was that he had started 1 company that had gone through different owner (describing the company history and how it came to be owned by Israil rather than faulting its founder) and that it was the same company but it appears to not be the case. That said its still not acceptable that they are being counted by a private company out of sight, they should be counted in a transparent manner by the people and in front of the people.
Yes with that I agree. Use electronic means to get a faster more cohesive tally. But always have a paper trail for transparancy and validation.