Thank you for the response . Yes sir ,, the green one,, the lower priced one. I've taken a few pieces , welded them together,, and beat them with a hammer,, held 1 end and slammed it on the concrete,, and it didn't break . I was just wondering how far you could actually trust it . I've got one of those red Lincoln Buzz Boxes ,, I just haven't done a lot of work with it ,,and I'm not in a big shop ,, so dragging it out,, stretching out a 220v cord ,, is a pain in the ass. But I've not put enough time on them stick welders to learn it. Thanks for the response ,, be safe out there.