Moses

Discussion in 'Faith and Religion' started by duane, Sep 20, 2025.

  1. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Moses had a sermon on the choices that we make. Don't know if he meant it for us, but he said if you follow the 10 rules you will have a good life, if you don't, you will have some problems. We no longer teach or in law honor the 10 Commandments and thus have no common agreement on what is right or wrong. Much of what he said would happen is happening and we seem determined to follow it to the bitter end. For those of us that believe, reading Deuteronomy 28 is a sobering experience. For those who don't believe, it gives a sense of how much worse it is going to get. It doesn't have to be Christianity that wins. Who knows, in another 50 years we may all be good little Muslims and do as we are told.
     
  2. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Guess I have a problem in that I have a great deal of a problem separating our total collapse as a civil nation with a loss of the common core beliefs we once had, I find it difficult to understand our present system in which the Declaration of Independence would by necessity be placed in the forum as a religious document. In the first paragraph it plainly states that God's given rights have been taken away from us. Not that the King broke the law, he took away that given to us by God. That clearly breaks the rule that religion and state should not be mixed. It used to be that you didn't need to be a Christian to believe that some sort of moral code needed to be held in common by the people to have a stable and lasting society. It was referred to as the Judeo-Christian moral code and for the most part served well for believers and non believers and society as a whole did not keep score, Now we have a breakdown to the point that even our elected representatives no longer follow a common code. Some want Shari law, some want no formal law at all. If you need something and don't have money, take it. If you kill someone that opposes you, it is justified, everyone is owed their fair share and shouldn't have to work for it. It is their right and it has to be given to them in the name of equity.

    I will try to keep separate that which belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God. Even though I think our troubles as a nation are due to the loss of any moral authority and replacing it with chaos.

    Since this is now in the religious section, I feel free to make a quote:


    36 The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
     
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  3. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    The divide of ideals has already happened.1 Corinthians 1:10 tells us to be not divided, but united in same mind and judgement. America has already split, We are quite possibly the whore of Revelation, and we will be split and divided as in Revelation 16:19. The parallels of our modern day society fit like a puzzle piece all through the books of Isaiah and Revelation for anyone to read and the 10 Commandments exist as a guideline for our behavior yet so many turn away in this country. Meanwhile, the followers of Islam seem to grow stronger each day, united in their faith rather than polarized by it. I feel like there is no turning back for us.
     
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  4. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    The Ten Commandments, like the Code of Hammurabi were early written laws and were attempts made to bring order out of Chaos. They were not limited to the "true" believers but obeyed by all. While the Code worked, it was both detailed and strict in its punishment. The Commandments were both much easier to follow than the code and much more forgiving, I do however think that Hammurabi saw the problems inherent in a court system and I like his solution. a judge tries a case, reaches a decision, and presents his judgment in writing but later an error is found that is the judge’s own fault, then the judge must pay twelve times the fine set by him in the case; in addition, he shall be publicly removed from the judge's bench, never again to sit on the bench nor render judgment.

    Here is the Code in its whole:

    HAMMURABI’S CODE OF LAWS
     
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  5. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Man resents the accountability to a God that knows their heart.
    On a spiritual level, some one with a big ego like Lucifer ( chief song leader) having private thought is inconvenient when you want to usurp authority.
    So long as God was calling the shots, Isreal did well just coming out of the wilderness into the promised land, but after a while they wanted a king like other lands and subsequently took God out of the picture and that is when things got worse for them.
    God had been giving laws that might inspire love for one another, but this is not human nature.
    Man is selfish. People don't mind helping unless there is some personal sacrifice in play.
    I digress,
    Jesus provided something the 10 commandments did not. the Holy Spirit, via the cost of Jesus sacrifice for man's sin.
    By repenting of sin and receiving Jesus into one's life a serious change occurs,thus porviding 2 things. 1. forgiveness of sin (rebellion) 2. the companionship of the Holy Spirit, to give power to live and have God's fellowship and guidance.
    True there are those with an academic understanding of God, but lack the relationship where one can know and do God's will, both for one's own good and that for the good of others.
    Some fear what God might ask, proving their unbelief. If you believe in something you are not afraid of it.
    I reverence God, but I am not afraid of what He might ask, even if I don't understand, even if it meant my death, Jesus was obedient unto death, I am one whom He died for. So are you.
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

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    Thank you. Freedom from religion is just as important as freedom of religion, at least on a personal basis. As for this country, we've already lost it. Better to accept this fact now and get right with God. The Christians have a checkered history, from struggling to survive in a Pagan dominated culture, to outright murdering anybody who wouldn't think as they do, to finally becoming the guardians of traditional authority...willing to die to protect our right to exist free without tyranny.

    Christianity is very important to any free society and it must be protected at all costs. This is why we have the religious section. And our rules will be followed.
     
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