Just One of Many Things To Come/ Why Prepping is not Fanatic It's Essential!!!

Discussion in 'Off Grid Living' started by Gopherman, Jul 20, 2014.


  1. Gopherman

    Gopherman Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Back to Sleep

    NBC News declares 'billions could starve' as America's water aquifers run dry - NaturalNews.com
    This article pretty much spells it out, in no uncertain terms.
    Get your Rainwater Collection and Water Purification affairs in order NOW!
    Nestle, Arrowhead tapping water from Morongo reservation
    With Obama's Blessing, Nation's Water Supply Disappearing
    Major Corporations are bottling water from the Great Lakes, and using Indian Exemptions from Fed. Oversight around the Nation and sending it to China, and many other countries as Water Table levels are falling and the Food Belt in the US is drying up, all in the name of profits.
     
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  2. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    Yet another reason I'm pushing the Mr. for us to relocate to somewhere it actually rains.
     
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  3. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    You could condense humidity.....;)
     
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  4. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    I like calling North Carolina home--the states jingle. Looked at all the green grass, trees, and abundant water last week and just said---"thank you Lord". Today we are eating out of our garden again.
     
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  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Then have a wink at one of your reps, say like Renee Ellmers. Thanks, Lord, for my funny bone.
     
  6. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Sorry Folks, I know of no place on earth that you can be sure of having potable water.
     
  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    You, obviously, haven't ever lived in a "Rain Forest" like Southeastern Alaska.... We get over 120" of rain in a year. All our water, at my location, comes off the Roof of the Cabin, YEAR Round.... and I haven't had to pump from the Creek in 3 years.... A good set of Filters, and a UV Sterilizer, makes even the worst Water, Potable..... ...... YMMV.....
     
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  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Yup been there, that doesn't mean things can't change in the blink of an eye.
     
  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Been this way for Hundreds of Thousands of Years.... I suspect it will stay the same for the rest of my lifetime....
     
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  10. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    You can only hope!
     
  11. Gopherman

    Gopherman Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Back to Sleep

    Or ALABAMA! We get more rain here than Seattle! We just get ours all at once! 6-12" at a time!! LOL
     
  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    I'll put Money on it... Will you?
     
  13. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    The happening I'm thinking about would make both of us at the wrong end of the stick.

    "Sorry Folks, I know of no place on earth that you can be sure of having potable water."

    But I'll stand on what I said and add I don't know of anyplace that is 100% secure for water loss or safety.

    Just think what would happen if a VERY large wave came your way and that's only one example. The ring of fire could wipe you out in one bad wave and fill your reserves with salt water.
     
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  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    There isn't a WAVE, big enough, to reach all the way in here, where I live, from the Coast, that would get past Inian Islands, or get thru North or South Pass. Never happen. Even the Latoya Bay Tsunami didn't produce any significant rise in here, and it was 500 Ft High. Look at the topology, it just doesn't support your theory....

    I live on a 1 mile wide, North/South Fjord, about 3 miles north of the southern entrance. It has 3000 ft Mountain Ranges on both sides. The water way it connects to goes East/West. West to the Ocean, via Inian Islands, and two very Narrow Connecting waterways, called North & South Passes, around the Islands. The coast s 50 miles west of the entrance, and the Island, and Passes, are 1/2 way between the entrance, and the coast. The Islands have 1000 to 2000' elevations. .....
     
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  15. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    We also cannot be 100% certain that the Earth's rotation will reveal the Sun to us tomorrow either....but we tend to plan on it happening each day, on the basis that it has regularly done so in the past, and with no evidence that it will not continue to do so in the foreseeable future. Water availability and potability is subject to some variability...floods - droughts - contamination - disease vectors and so forth. Each person in their part of the world needs to consider the variables that are most probable where they live or where they might move to as part of their bug-in or bug-out plans.

    There are any number of possibilities that might affect the availability and potability of water in any one location...ranging from a global nuclear war.....to some tetchy deity incinerating the planet....(apparently drowning humanity wasn't effective enough). The thing is that prepping is about preparing for credible contingencies, rather than incredible ones. Individuals just don't have the resources to spend on preparing for every conceivable threat to human survival imaginable.
     
  16. tulianr

    tulianr Don Quixote de la Monkey

    I'll second what -06 said. My wife and I moved to North Carolina from west Texas twelve years ago, primarily due to the water supply. What I tell my friends back in Texas, when they mention the difficulties inherent to living in a desert/semi-desert environment, has almost become a mantra - "Life doesn't have to be that hard. Move!"

    I love the people of Texas, but life over here is an entirely different reality. There's no way I would move back. I have thought of Texas each time that I have driven one of the hundreds of T-posts that I have driven since arriving here. Five good whacks with a T-post driver, and I am at depth. On some parts of my property, three will do it. In west Texas, fifty was more like the average in that hard baked caliche.

    We get sixty inches of rain a year. My property here is partially surrounded by a creek, that in Texas would be considered a river. My pastures have grass year around. My hillsides are covered in blackberries, wild blue berries, walnuts, hickory nuts, muscadines, mushrooms, and a dozen other wild foods. I can roam through my woods and graze like a bear for much of the year. I often think to myself, "You'd have to be an idiot not to be able to survive here." Life here, compared to many parts of Texas, is ridiculously easy.

    Hardships often help to develop character in people, and life in rural Texas can provide those hardships, but I've got enough character for one lifetime. Keep prodding the mister. Move!
     
  17. Gopherman

    Gopherman Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Back to Sleep

    Amen!!
    I lived on the West Coast for almost 20 years. When we moved down South the thing that still strikes me is how alive it is here. I still think that all the time and I've been here for 9 years.
    It totally makes a difference what part of the country you live in.
    Our first water table hit is 20' the second is at 80' that's the one we use for the house, but in a pinch I could dig a 20' foot well with a shovel, run it through a sand filter with activated charcoal and drink it, if I had to.
     
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  18. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Sounds beautiful.
     
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  19. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    I spent my first five years in North Carolina, and I remember trees everywhere, flowering shrubs all around us, the massive magnolia trees us kids were forever climbing. Most of all I remember rain, lots of it. If we weren't there we were at my grandparents farm in the Smokey Mountains. Again, lots of rain and everything grew. We left NC and TN for some dustbowl pissant town on the Tx/Ok panhandle border where there was wind and dirt and lots of both. No trees unless they were in someone's yard with a dedicated hose and even then they weren't impressive. I did love the wide open spaces, still do. But we have a bass boat we have to haul 300 miles to hit a lake with any water left in it and I can't look at an active water sprinkler without wincing. I plant a fruit tree and have to hover over it for two years to make sure it doesn't keel over from 110 sun cooking it. If it were up to me we'd have left years ago.

    The hardest part for me now is convincing a guy staring down his 50th birthday to leave a job he's done for fifteen years and has seniority at, and start over a million miles away from his parents, family and friends. I'm more than happy to live a million miles away from my family but he's not. Wants to move to Dallas/Fort Worth so he can be near his brother in law and they can sit around making beer on the weekends. Right now my goal is to stash up enough cash to buy a waterfront bar in a state I've picked out and say "Load up the boat, we're leaving".
     
  20. Gopherman

    Gopherman Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Back to Sleep

    A Bar and a Boat, Who could possibly argue with that?
    You know the way to a mans Heart that's for sure!!
     
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