Ruger Ups the Game

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by HK_User, Aug 19, 2018.


  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

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  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    At $480, it's just a tad expensive, but on sale would be a little more attractive in price. Nice to see it with a threaded muzzle and larger capacity mags. But that stock...well it's not "tacticool" or attractive by any means. But, it's functional and that's what is most important.

    AT $280 or even cheaper, the Hi-Point 995TS offers an American made all-star package in the same platform. I'm just saying this bluntly, but I think Ruger has long been overpriced and doesn't have a firm grasp on reality as a company. They're not even coming close to being competitive, here.
     
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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Saw a guy at the range this last week with one that had a mag well insert that allowed it to accept Glock magazines. He was shooting bulls at over 30 yards.
     
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  4. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    I want to like Ruger and drive past the plant outside of Prescott on occasion.but their rifles seem a bit overpriced. Enough so that I look at other brands knowing that they are priced much cheaper.
     
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  5. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I'd rather it had a stock like a 10/22 for perception purposes.
     
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  6. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Hey this is sweet and I always have like Ruger. I currently got a SR22 pistol and a 10/22 Rifle by them. I have always wanted a 9mm carbine to play with and will have to keep an eye on this one.
     
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  7. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Me, too but I think I would like it as an AR pattern rifle better. $480 isn't a bad price when you look at the alternatives and their costs. There is something out there for everyone and I applaud the variety.. :D
     
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  8. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Might be a good truck and "get home" platform since they also break down for compact storage, but with AR's still on sale @ $500 (locally both the Ruger AR556 and the S&W Sport 2) it's a tough sell. A round of 9mm weighs the same as 5.56 NATO and the PC carbine is already a quarter pound heavier to boot than either AR. That makes it more expensive, heavier, and less effective for both defense and survival. Note than any AR can be broken down as well and there are specialty "discreet" cases to carry them that way.

    The advantage would be if you had a Glock double stack pistol so you could keep common ammo between the two; that and it looks less "scary" to the non gun owner. I'd be in at $300, so maybe I'll find one used in a few years.
     
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  9. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I just realized why it's in the ridiculous price range for a pistol cal. carbine. It's a takedown, isn't it?
    Yup.
     
  11. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I'm hoping the Ruger .44 Mag camp carbine comes back. Add a 17rd detachable mag and I'll be leaping at the bit to get one.
     
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  12. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Or a 45 LC
     
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  13. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    You can prove me wrong all day long but a quick takedown rifle with the optics on one piece and the barrel on another doesn't seem like it would always reassemble and retain a good zero.

    I suppose it depends on a person's version of good enough in such a short range weapon.
     
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  14. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Bet the Rancher / Farmer wasn't too happy!
    :lol:
     
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  15. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Nah, only a 9mm, no knock down power for Bulls.
     
  16. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Naw, I'll stick to my "Origional" pistol caliber Carbine, a Ruger M77/44 in .44 Magnum! I found modded M1Carbine mags can fit with a little tweaking, an can get 11 rounds of hot .44 on board, though I would like to find a more modern type of mag!
     
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  17. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    Take down, Glcok mags and yes it retains zero when you put the barrel back in. It is a little heavy but you have a very nice truck gun or pack gun. It certainly makes hitting targets at longer range easier than a pistol and if you carry a Glock same mags fit. It would be nice in .357 Sig, and since the bolt comes out of the bolt carrier, I'd think a new barrel and bolt face might just do it. Problem might be that it's a blowback operated rifle and the sig rounds might be a bit much.
     
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  18. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    The Deerfield carbine had a removable rotary magazine and might it be possible to increase the capacity. The .44 Camp Carbine has an internal magazine that runs forward in the stock. Mine is fickle and only likes to shoot really hot handloads. It would be more pleasant with .44 Special power loads, but I haven't found a lighter load that will cycle it reliably, and haven't had time to fiddle with it as much as I'd like. From what I've read the .44 Ruger carbines have very small gas ports that are nearly impossible to clean once fouled, so they'll never be good candidates for cast bullets.

    Ruger used to make attractive firearms.
     
  19. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    I always thought a tube fed .44 Ruger 77/44 would be the hot ticket, but nobody at Ruger seems to Take me serious!
     
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  20. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    I know the feeling, I always figured a Ruger in 45 ACP Carbine feed with a Thompson Stick Magazine would be a good Deal. OTOH Ruger is stuck back in the 70s.
     
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