“The Science Guy”

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OldDude49, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    Seems the claim is this guys is sorta not really a scientist? At least in the way many of us think such...

    "When I learned that Bill’s degree is in electrical engineering some of the questions I had were answered. Engineering uses science, but it is not science. The focus is on what works and what does not. Their hard focus tends to be on physical limits so that stuff they design and build works and is safe. Their reference books tell them how much current they can pass down a quarter inch diameter copper wire and not cause a fire, for example. Engineers are often in awe of “pure science” guys and give them great respect."

    and this is said...

    "Bill Nye is not a stupid man, but he may be ignorant of basic physical science. However, he knows the money side of this issue and he is prototypical. Bill is an example of how fast this issue can flip when the money is on the other side of Tucker vs Nye."

    you can read more here if ya care to...

    Tucker Carlson Teaches "The Science Guy" About Climate Change | iPatriot
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  2. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Ahhh, yes, Bill Nye, the politically correct but not actually a scientist guy. I've been on to him for years. Boiling water in a paper cup for the kiddoes does not qualify this guy as a scientist any more than my daily commute qualifies me for NASCAR.

    He's a low rent schill for those who want to silence critical thinkers. I'm actually a bit surprised that Carlson didn't completely bitch slap him in the interview.

    Bill Nye open to criminal charges, jail time for climate-change dissenters
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  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Electrical engineers out of school don't even know what a breaker or fuse looks like. True story, unfortunately.
    But they can design (not build) you a bad ass automatic voltage regulator, DC power system or a power grid and make it more efficient in ways most of us don't even understand.

    However this knowledge does not qualify them in matters of climate science.

    Which pretty much just leaves one possibly. If you have an electrical engineer speaking their opinion about climate change then they are just another kool-aid drinking sycophant towing the party line.
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  4. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    To be fair, Bill Bye assisted in the creation of a sun dial used to calibrate cameras used on Mars landers. That's kind of sciencey even though it's still an engineering job and likely much niftier than the one I built by myself (I didn't require the other team members like the artist and three astronomers) when I was a cub scout.

    MarsDial - Wikipedia
  5. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Whenever I see someone Addressed as a "Scientist" my BS Meter immediately goes up 50%... First thing I. Want to know, in what Field is his Degree in... and does it have ANY Relationship to the Field that he is commenting on.... Now if he is Talking about things in his Field of Study, GREAT, but if NOT, Then I want to see, what makes his opinion, any more valid that the Drunk Homeless Yahoo, sleeping on the sidewalk... Now my partner, has a Phd, in Electrical Engineering, from the University of Washington... He is ALSO acknowledged, as the Premiere Authority on the Northwestern Green Tree Frog, by the Biologists that study these amphibians at the UofW. He gained this reputation by doing research on this reptile, while helping his boys, with the project, for a ScienceFair Project, over three years time. They raised crickets, in a Triairium, to feed the Frogs, that they raised, and used during research Phase of the project. They have over a GigaByte of data, and recordings of sounds, made by the frogs, and identified, the sounds with specific actions of both genders, at different stages of maturity. I my mind that would qualify HIM, to comment, authoritatively on this subject...
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  6. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    But Bruce, do they taste good?

    Not to demean his and his childrens' research, but it does illustrate the point that even though one is well versed in a subject there may be aspects they failed to cover - or perhaps even consider. :)
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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I heard it said that one can know more and more about less and less until you know everything about nothing. Now, THAT would be an advanced degree, would it not?
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  8. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    BTPost brings up a good point, who has a deeper knowledge of some aspects of the Alaskan fisheries, eco system, ice fields, etc, a Phd in eco science working for the Feds with 2 years experience and about 90 days which was working on a project in Alaska or someone who has fished, trapped, survived in the area for 60 years and whose family has lived there for 100 or 1,000 years. A gifted amateur can have a much deeper understanding of a limited subject than any generalized knowledge held by a Phd.
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  9. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    When the weather network can forcast an entire YEAR in advance with 95% accuracy...i'll believe we know something aboot climate science.

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  10. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    They can't forecast for an entire DAY with 95% accuracy! Hell, I'd settle for 50% accuracy which should be possible with "sunny/cloudy" but they can't even hit THAT.

    @BTPost - I, DarkLight, hereby state and knowing full well that I am doing it, am going to give you a hard time. I know it, I accept it, and want you to know that I'm TEASING YOU when I do this...but...a frog is an amphibian...

    (and queue the middle finger/butt showing gif) :D
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  11. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Are not amphibians still reptiles? crocks and gators are reptiles, so what makes frogs different? There all breath Air, they all spend time on land & water... The all lay eggs, and hatch out of them, so what makes them separate genius'....
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  12. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    Reptiles never had gills during their maturing phases, amphibians start life water only with gills and grow lungs.

    But moving on, not going to turn this into a biology discussion, hence the warning that I was going to give you a hard time.
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  13. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    A Biologist, I am not, so that is NEWS to me... last Biology Class I Took, was the 100 level course in college, and that was four and a half DECADES, AGO....
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  14. Mountain mama

    Mountain mama Monkey

    I love biology discussions. Then I can feel my college education was not wasted on mere housewifedom.
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  15. Mountain mama

    Mountain mama Monkey

    There are 3 major differences between amphibians and reptiles. Amphibians hatch out and begin their lives in the water. They begin with gills and then lungs form and their circulatory system changes as to how O2 is absorbed into their blood. The other way they are different is their skin. Amphibians have smooth moist skin. Reptiles have scales and scutes.
  16. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    Ask any woman in my family and they'll tell you they all fall into the creepy-crawly category so it's a moot point.
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  17. runswithdogs

    runswithdogs Monkey+++

    Reptiles are edible, amphibians... not so much....
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  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Mmm. Frog legs!!
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  19. runswithdogs

    runswithdogs Monkey+++

    always exceptions to any rule:D
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