16 Shot semi-auto 12 gauge

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Seacowboys, Aug 31, 2012.


  1. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Gator 45/70, Smitty and Silversnake like this.
  2. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    Somebody was thinking. Thanks for posting.
     
  3. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Now I know what my next gun purchase is going to be.

     
  4. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Meh, only 16 rds? Why not 30
    Heck, go FA
     
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I have a Saiga but this thing has a much more ergonomic profile, especially if you are firing a drum or a big mag. I'll trade you my Saiga for one any day.
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Very thoughtful design.
     
  7. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member



    You may want to wait to see if this feller has better luck with the next one he gets back.......
     
  8. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I had a chance to play with one of these yesterday and over-all have decided that I got to have one. It started out with a few hang-ups, mostly light primer strikes. I took the weapon apart and tinkered with the hammer and dis-connect for a little bit with a set of stones, added a bit of graphite lube and cycled through two boxes of high-brass without a flaw shooting a mixture of Buckshot and Slugs. Then we switched to Federal low-brass and Winchester AA field loads and fired more than 200 rounds without a hiccup. AR platform weapons need to be shot in.
    As an aside, I must have fired at least 200 rounds through my Saiga before I go it to run correctly, so apparently the AK platform has issues too, mostly with factory stamped parts that need to learn their correct place in the scheme of things.
     
  9. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    He posted another vid (4a) that shows the results of the new gun. I have some questions about his analysis of the fired hulls. For one thing, I think he's confused the extractor with the ejector leaving marks. So far as the bulged bases and torn off ends go, I believe that is due to the bolt unlocking before gas pressure has dropped, and the bulge forms as the bolt moves back and before the base shrinks back away from the chamber walls. I didn't notice if the "bulge" was only on the high brass or if it also happened on the target hulls. I'm not fond of tinkering, so that gun is not on my want list.
     
  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    It seems to be like the Kel-Tec offerings, interesting ideas not quite thought out and not executed well......

    Maybe just a little more tweaking. :(
     
  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    The dealer I use gave me a price of $2300 and sells to me at 10% over cost. Will have to sell a couple toys if I want to get one of these!
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    You might find a buyer hanging off the tree. (Or a diver willing to go to your sunken wreck.)
     
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  13. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I saw one at the Biloxi gunshow for $1550.00 out the door.
     
  14. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Great price, unless it had some major issues that could not be fixed, considering what the dealer and Gun Broker prices are.
     
  15. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    I'm just really supprised by the lack of haters. Usually whenever there is something new, with some bugs to be worked out, has rails all over it, and was designed with similiar ergonomics to the AR... Well, somebody has to have an argument against it. [stirpot]
     
  16. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    OK, it is way overpriced at $2300 for a new fangled semi that needs to be worked on to operate correctly.
     
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