Beef shortage

Discussion in 'Politics' started by johnbb, Nov 25, 2025.


  1. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Tyson Foods to close major beef plant, scale back operations as cattle supplies decline.

    Think beef prices are high --going to be a lot higher
     
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  2. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    Look at this as a positive and here is why. Cattle herds are at it lowest nation wide, Beef prices continue to soar as screwworm, smaller herds pinch market but Tyson is one of the big food corporations that have been screwing the cattle ranchers by offering cut rate prices for beef cattle which in turn has put the squeeze on ranchers already small profit margins. One of the few good things that came from the Biden Administration was the incentives of creating smaller meat production plants, https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...pansion-plan-lower-prices-farming/9075325002/
    The loss of those 3,000 jobs is unfortunate for that small town of 11,000, but Tyson is on of the largest corporations that has way to much control over our national food production and supply.
     
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  3. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator


    it aint jus beef or jus food

    puter parts, lectronics, yadda yadda is goin up in a yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge way

    been warnin all yall fer years

    plus Black Friday deals aint deals, except one or two
     
  4. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Scaled back, promote local beef production which is better all around!

    Stop investing in beef futures and driving the prices through the roof, when we close down the big business of beef and go back to local, the priced will drop while the producer's income goes up! We should have never gone this route, keep it like we do with milk, local suppliers ONLY!
     
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  5. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    My 90 year old uncle lives in upstate NY near the Amish bought a half a steer and put it in the freezer last year cost was way less than any supermarket. That's's the way to beat these corporate thieves
     
  6. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Read something a few months back ,, a group of cattle ranchers was going to get together and start there own butchering company,, seem like I remember them saying they could cut out some of the cost not having that middle man in there .
     
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    They know that carnivore is healthy, got to push the Bill Gates fake meat agenda somehow.

    You will be sick and love it, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh...

    mcdonalds-logo.
     
  8. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

  9. This is how you avoid fake meat.

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  10. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    im not getting tired of eating steak.roast.burger. what a blessing to have a full freezer. one backstrap was 5' long.


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  11. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

  12. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    Restaurant’s are no escape from the crap food available, Sysco is just as bad as Tyson,
     
  13. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    One thing is for sure, we won't see beef prices drop for about 2 years as takes that long to grow the herd...then we got the cost of feed for them. Will it go up? I'm wondering if our beef industry will recover from this. I would imagine we will see much more imported beef from Argentina and Chile which will hurt domestic beef too. Things are definitely getting better but it isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Gas here in North Idaho is finally starting to drop, was $2.95 at Costco which is down about a buck over the last 6 weeks.
     
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  14. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    This will be interesting to see how this plays out. If they are using bio meat...however, I do not think they are that dumb to leave themselves open to such liability. I have a case of their soups in the pantry for emergency; stuff tastes awful but then again, I'm pretty spoiled. LOL!
     
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  15. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Driving to my son's in Gulf Breeze FL on I-10 last year did not see one steer in the pastures this year saw several herds so maybe there is hope prices and supply of American beef will increase soon.
     
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  16. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

  17. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I used to pick up from a Campbell's soup from a plant that made and canned their products. If you've ever seen the plant and the process ,, you wouldn't eat it.
    But ,, that could be true for many places.
     
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  18. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    i worked in a fish meal plant. you wouldn't feed that to a cat you hated.
     
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  19. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    I used to work on kitchen equipment...now I never eat out.
     
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  20. Polecat

    Polecat Monkey

    I used to run 250-300 cow-calf pairs, but I got out of it a couple years ago. The inheritance got all screwed up, etc. It's a long story.

    Anyway, my non-expert opinion is that this can all be traced back to the war in the Ukraine and the associated sanctions against Russia. Most of our nitrogen-based fertilizers came from Russia, and when the price skyrocketed on that stuff, the natural reaction was to thin the herd until prices came back down, so you didn't have to grow as much corn. I haven't checked on the price of nitrogen lately, but when I got out of it, it was high as poison. You can't hardly grow feed corn without it these days. The GMO seed lock-in costs so much that you can't hardly afford to not do everything possible to maximize yield, because if the stuff blights or doesn't turn out, you're out of a *lot* of money. And of course the stupid ethanol fuel subsidies don't help with the feed costs either, but that will never change as long as the races start in Iowa.

    According to my buddy who is still in the business, the herd is down about 30% right now. Problem is that, fertilizer issues aside, the general strategy for raising beef is to sell down and thin the herd when beef prices are high and then keep more replacement heifers and grow the herd when beef prices are low. So until the beef prices go back down, I doubt the herd will grow as fast as it needs to. It's a self-reinforcing negative loop.

    But I think it's a bubble that will eventually pop. My buddies who are still in the business don't think it is, but I think they may be doing some wishful thinking. I guess we'll see. In the meantime, it looks like it's still pretty affordable to buy a fat hog or two and butcher them yourself, so I guess that's what I'll do once I finish eating up this last steer.
     
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