blackwater debacle gaining teeth...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tango3, Sep 27, 2007.


  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    (nightly infowars stroll):
    Seems there's plentyof criminal arrogance to go around the executive branch:Now Condi's directly connected to squashing investigation in to "state dept matters"....admittedly it is her dept.
    Theres more to the blackwater incident than meets fox news...And dod has some problems with the private praetorian guard messing up relations gains between with iraqi civilians and us military
    http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_may_be_worse_than_abu_ghraib.htm
     
  2. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    It seems that the government has gotten progressively more attached to Blackwater with the passing years. Notice the jump in contract amounts between 2001 and 2002. Then notice 2002 and 2003.

    http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds...ear=&submit=GO

    Blackwater USA has received over a Billion Dollars of US taxpayer money since the year 2000.

    Blackwater USA Government Contracts
    2000 $204,911
    2001 $736,906
    2002 $3,415,884
    2003 $25,395,556
    2004 $48,496,902
    2005 $201,010,119
    2006 $593,075,845
    2007 2Q* $187,297,239
    Total Contracts $1,059,633,363

    *Note: FY 2007 only includes up through second and part of third quarter.

    Interesting,huh? Now check this out.

    Presidential Airways, Inc., an aviation Worldwide Services company (d/b/a Blackwater Aviation), Moyock, N.C., is being awarded an indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity (IDIQ) type contract for $92,000,000.00. The contractor is to provide all fixed-wing aircraft, personnel, equipment, tools, material, maintenance and supervision necessary to perform passenger, cargo and combi Short Take-Off and Landing air transportation services between locations in the Area of Responsibility of Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan and Uzbekistan. This contract was competitively procured and two timely offers were received. The performance period is from 1 October 2007 to 30 September 2011. The United States Transportation Command Acquisition Directorate, Scott Air Force Base, Ill., is the contracting activity (HTC7 11 08D-0010).

    http://www.defenselink.mil/contracts...ontractid=3614

    A fat contract for all aircraft in that region can come in handy when you have unsavory hobbies like:

    Arms(and drug)smuggling
    http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/22/4029/
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldN...46415620070922


    We need to keep a very close eye on these charming gentlemen,don't you think?

    http://www.blackwaterwatch.com/
     
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Probably not too relevant to the subject of Blackwater, but worth the mention. ID/IQ contracts are awarded to companies that have proven track records of being able to deliver. Far more of them do not go to the full value because the need did not materialize than do; often enough the contracts are written to cover a possible need rather than a fixed scope of work. There have been a few notable over runs tho' --
     
  4. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

  5. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    You'rekidding right[fnny]? an open government bucket o'funds that was not squeezed and rung out of every last cent to dry?it defies belief...Suppose if youasked the texas state legislature,they could find one of them to manage keep a straight face when asked about this.[flag]
    Ever skeptical...
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    What's the use gaining a contract to fly in Afghanananananastan if you can't take a piece of the opium pie, too? ;)
     
  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    That is a whole 'nuther issue, indeed it is. Evidence? I haven't seen any pointing in that direction. 'Course, I don't expect to.

    By the way, I am not defending any of the Big Boys (KBR, Halliburton and the like) they can take care of themselves, I should think. They may well be doing that. But my statement on ID/IQ contracts stands as written. What the pols do is add things that make less sense as time goes on and they see money already allocated. The use it or loose it mentality rules, and if there is pig on the hoof, pork is what is asked for.
     
  8. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Personally, I believe that if Halliburton wants to have a war, then let them hire all the mercs they want. We don't need our children getting killed for their agenda.
     
  9. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

     
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