Bush Administration to Sell $1 billion in Public Lands

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  1. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    Bush Administration to Sell $1 billion in Public Lands
    Friday, February 10, 2006

    WASHINGTON — The Bush administration on Friday detailed its proposal to sell more than 300,000 acres of national forests and other public land to help pay for rural schools in 41 states.

    The land sales, ranging from less than an acre to more than 1,000 acres, could total more than $1 billion and would be the largest sale of forest land in decades.

    Western lawmakers immediately objected, saying the short-term gains would be offset by the permanent loss of public lands. Congress would have to approve the sales, and has rejected similar proposals in recent years.

    Forest Service officials say the sales are needed to raise $800 million over the next five years to pay for schools and roads in rural counties hurt by logging cutbacks on federal land. The Bureau of Land Management has said it also plans to sell federal lands to raise an estimated $250 million over five years.

    Dave Alberswerth, a public lands expert with The Wilderness Society environmental group called the plan a billion-dollar boondoggle to privatize treasured public lands to pay for "tax cuts to the rich."

    "This is not going to be politically acceptable to most people," Alberswerth said.


    But Agriculture Undersecretary Mark Rey, who directs forest policy, said the parcels to be sold are isolated, expensive to manage or no longer meet the needs of the national forest system. The administration expects to have to sell only about 200,000 of the 309,000 acres identified Friday to meet the $800 million goal, he said.

    "These are not the crown jewels we are talking about," Rey said in an interview. The public can he deficit would be a shortsighted, ill-advised and irresponsible shift in federal land-management policy."

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., called the plan "a terrible idea based on a misguided sense of priorities."

    Not only is the administration proposing to sell off public lands to help finance the president's budget, the move also won't sufficiently fund the rural schools program, which has helped California and other states, Feinstein said. "I will do everything I can to defeat this effort," she said.

    Nearly 500 parcels totaling more than 85,000 acres in California are identified for possible sale.

    The proposal follows a failed move last year to allow the sale of public lands for mining. Western senators had criticized the idea, as well as a plan by Rep. Richard Pombo, R-Calif., to sell off 15 national parks.
     
  2. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Here's a question for y'all? If the government sells it to the public, can they take it back later under imminent domain?
     
  3. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member


    ahahahaaaaaaaaa....without a doubt. Just like they can if you don't pay your annual rents to them ( property taxes ).


    Funny how Bush might actually be able to use the Constitution to further his position...... the one he swore to uphold and defend, and which he thinks is "just a GD piece of paper".

    The ONLY authorization in the Constitution for the Federal owning of ANY land is Article 1 Section 8

    to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

    The Feds can ONLY buy land in a State by consent of the State, and THEN ONLY for the purposes listed. There is no Constitutional authority for the holding of vast tracts of 'public land'......none.......and without such authority granted BY the States, the FEDS can't legally do so.

    Not that lack of authority has slowed them up much in the last 150 years in many areas.
     
  4. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Hey? Where has Broker been? Figured he would jump in on this one?
     
  5. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I would imagine thats probably the real plan. Sell it off at true market value then later come in and take it back under immenent domain and at best pay a fraction of its value, not to mention that thats how a lot of the 'public lands' have come to be 'public' in the first place.
     
  6. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    LOL Sniper. Brokor has been gone for around 30 days. A move or something.

    My question is how can the Fed sell land that is mine? I didn't get the proxy vote form yet
     
  7. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Found this website which lists the potential sites that will be availiable for sale.

    2900 acres in Tennessee. ( Did ya'll know there are National Forest in Nebraska ?.....who would have thunk it )

    http://www.fs.fed.us/land/staff/spd.html
     
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    If my gov't wants to sell my land to me, I'll entertain the thought. How does one know if/when a given parcel comes on the market?
     
  9. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    they cant take care of it, they might as well get it off of the tax rolls.
     
  10. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I wonder what rich bastard or corporation will be the new landlord of the forests and gate it off, like most of the privately owned forests these days...
     
  11. meyah

    meyah Monkey+++

    good deal.

    They can't take it with them, and wrecking their stuff is easy and cheap and safe to do.
     
  12. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    3333.33 an acres.......better be a lot of wood onthem properties
     
  13. meyah

    meyah Monkey+++

    Poor investment, indeed

    Better be lots of GOLD in them there hills.
     
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