Cali DOJ Raids Home, after Owner filed California Firearms Application Reporting System

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by HK_User, Jun 9, 2018.


  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    So here it is. California-man-12-felony-charges-registering-ar-15/. The Feds, FBI and others really do wade through a lot of paper work. Bitch as the do about no Fed Firearms Records. OTOH they seem to miss a lot of confused self styled idiots and pass them by, move along nothing to see here, nothing to see here nothing to worry about.

    But now Cali Records area Gold Mine to the Cali DOJ.

    California Man Hit with 12 Felony Charges after Registering AR-15 Online - GunsAmerica Digest
     
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  2. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    It's bad when one's government turns violently predatory. The whole California government needs a rope and a tree.
     
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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Notice.... They didn't call and ask to visit and inspect the rifle, They didn't send a letter asking that the owner bring in the firearm, they raided his home! I hope he beats the charges and sues the State for Millions!!
     
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    He should, and he'll lose until it works its way up the trial ladder until it gets above any court within the Kali districts. I sincerely hope it gets to SCOTUS before the poor bugger runs out of money so he can recover.
     
  5. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Here’s a lesson. Don’t register crap, kids.
     
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  6. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    Personally I would not even register my crap!
     
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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I might just so they would come and take it.
     
  8. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    Wonder how many charges will actually stick!
     
  9. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    Hmmmm had not thought about that would save some expense on the honey dipper in the future!
     
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  10. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Test run? Seeing what they might be able to get away with..
     
  11. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    Some states if it is confiscated it cannot be returned and must be destroyed.
    The real meat in this is about partially finished components and trying to close that loophole and then further allowing the state to define what is and is not an assault weapon where in fact there is no legal status to the term it is a word that has only inference and until it has legal status you may as well say can opener. it is like the word play "deadly weapon" any weapon that kills is a deadly weapon though it is used in a peculiar strategy using it in the context of a chair in a court would be laughable. Remember the theatrical entry of the 6.5 Carcano that supposedly killed Kennedy - JFK over the head the raised hands at an angle to add drama to conjure fear and loathing I seem to recall the perversion of the Biblical verse Luke 10:18 I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven -- in a news report of the time.

    Words are weapons, and they are building the scaffold to alter the meaning or connotation it is mental Jujitsu the kidnapping of words meant to instill horror and fear into unsophisticated and malleable minds they define "they " however you like, have taken words assault and weapon when in fact all it is is a rifle adding the word black to the word weapon together just makes any uninformed or innocent mind melt into a puddle of quivering piss that give the leverage to create new laws acceptable to the sheep who vote that type of drama and manipulation brought about the gun control act of 1968.

    I get tired of trying to explain what to me is obvious that there are people who actively seek to find a chink in the armor of the human mind and use it for a weapon to snatch the freedom and liberty from the masses and make themselves powerful Hitler did it Marx and during the french revolution Maximilien Robespierre turned a whole nation against itself, it can happen now and here where normally law biding people are made into monsters and hunted because they own a black, assault weapon with a pistol grip -- its a small step to turn all people that own a firearm into the reason for violence and crime as of now it's the weapon, gun violence now it's being mentioned as gun owners trying to get people to see in their minds eye that vast right wing group of paranoid Trump supporters -- it's not us it's them, they are the problem not us ! we are reasonable they are a basket of deplorable's sick demented inflexible unruly. who cling to their God and guns -- it's you damn Christians you have not heard that part but that's coming. Divide and conquer assault weapon owners against hunting weapons owners against ethical people that don't hunt but only shoot clays and targets divide further reputable shooting range members rational responsible people that use firearm locks and keep their legal firearms in a safe so the little kiddies wont hurt themselves because it's all about the children the same people that shove that in your face every day are all for lowering the age of consent to 13 and making pedophilia a misdemeanor-- they want your guns your faith and your children and legally put you in a box so you can not defend yourself and you cannot retaliate and have no legal standing to defend yourself and no protection that is the agenda it is happening now in Norway Sweden and England the ends justifies the means different cultures different methods end result you have no rights no legal recourse and no way to protect yourself or your family your a eunuch then laws against speech calling anything you say hate speech, now your mute. Convict you now your a criminal and can't vote then place you in prison now you don't exist if they really think your a threat another convict will get a better cell if they cut your throat--- but that will never happen here ?
     
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  12. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Sounds like an even more powerful argument for building ghost guns. Expensive as compared to over-the-counter, but the less the government knows what you have, the better.
     
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  13. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I see more and more Komafornia plates pulling U-Hauls heading East on the Interstate, What the news is not reporting? Mass exodus from the state?
     
  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    This is why a lot of people don't renew their concealed carry.
     
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  15. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    That maybe true but I want them to go else where, THEY are the types that are divisive we all saw it in commiefornia they placated hedge and use political correct speak we watched for years as they cowered and incrementally gave away their rights. Now illegal aliens have more rights than they do in fact one shot a girl on a pier and got away with it ! there is something wrong with them or something in the water if they show up in your state is going to s__t real soon ALL THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM !!! If anyone in your town meeting states."but thats the way we did it in commiefornia the room should jump on them and beat them to a pulp !

    I have lived other places I have tried to get involved move the needle those people are retarded morons idiots got web feet they are only confused by truth they cannot decimate it been there done that and got the T-shirt in one place it got so bad everyone sold out in 10 years and left REALLY none of the people there are the original families most of those are from commiefornia !
    breeding the next generation of moronic sheep We have one here all they can talk about is commiefornia this commiefornia that it's better there and I told them to shut the F up and go back a bunch of us did, we got sick of that crap I am thinking of getting up a collection and demanding a letter of reprisal if they go the can't come back or else they will owe us 7 times what we lent them to get out. As far as I am concerned they can go back to their precious Shambhala (reference to mystical Himalayan city) all they can talk about is open boarders those poor mistreated migrants and legalize pot many places if you don't make 250K a year you can't afford to live there consider this the attack of the zombies the only reason their leaving is the can't afford to stay -- the great thing if they sold out they got lots of money soon all of your property values will climb then your taxes and then you'll be living under a bridge.

    As far as that California man I hope they execute him for being so damn stupid, He has got a better chance of getting executed than all the mass murderers and illegal aliens in prison there, because he tried to follow the law that's where he made his mistake, he believed a government that has never EVER helped any normal rational law abiding sole that I ever heard of. All of the legal system uses that New York California legal tactic, stack the charges and use the power of the government to beat them into submission or destroy them. it's bullying it getting more pervasive Who I feel sorry for is the jury because no matter what the judge the upper court will ignore their decision and it will go on until the Supreme court and they may not want to hear it. He will still be in prison picking up the soap in the shower, everyone forgets that part prison is not a place of Peace and tranquility As of now no matter what happens his life is ruined, no job no money to fight the legal battle if he's married that's over his children if he has any might see them once a month and more than possible he will be sent to the furthest prison from his home -- that's how they crush your guts out -- 70% recidivism most would rather shoot it out than go back ever wonder why that is ?
     
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  16. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Americans are still Citizens in that we can still control the government IF we take action. The problem is that most of us don't give a rat's **** about what our leaders are doing because we have had it so good for so long. While we have been sleeping our educational and entertainment systems have been brainwashing the masses (especially the youth) into thinking they are better off as Subjects

    The Government will take care of me. I will get a free house, food, phone - all I have to do is give all my money in taxes. I won't even have to pay because someone else will. ​

    The Government will protect me and make me safe. All I have to do is give up my guns and suspiciously shaped sandwiches, pop tarts and sticks.

    The Government will give me free healthcare. All I have to give up is freedom of choice and accept whatever care a Government Official decides I can have or is best for me. If that Government Official decides my child is too ill to receive care and I'm not allowed to seek alternate care elsewhere or if I'm too old for treatment and need to be euthanized it's a small price to pay for security.

    I still get to say whatever I want to say unless it's inflammatory language the Government doesn't approve of. It's better now that I'm no longer constrained by religion, morals, or ethics. I'm still free to gather to protest Capitalists and other Nazi's and to rally in support of my Government. They are so good to me that they even tell me when and where to show up for protests and rallies.

    It's OK with me that everything must be regulated and permitted to ensure my safety and health. A child selling lemonade or someone cutting my hair without proper permits and licenses could cause me grave harm.

    Life as a subject is wonderful. I just wish the evil Nazi's who push for limited Government, personal responsibility, and Capitalism would stop trying to undermine our Socialist paradise as Subjects like they did in Venezuela. Liberty is for selfish losers. If only the rich would pay their fair share...​
     
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  17. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Sounds like a prison environment to me.
     
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  18. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Push people too far, they leave. So what does Commiefornia do when their entire tax base is gone, and they have millions of "minorities" and illegals all screaming and demanding their "entitlements"?
    Then it really becomes a warzone.
     
  19. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    Listen to the lady at about 1:24 but listen to all the crap before apologetic P.C. crap the family spokesman he did not agree with legal murder he is not the damaged party who cares what he thinks or that family thinks if we go down that road the the Manson family would be able to have a say Manson should have been hung but commiefornia and all the libtards were too gutless to take care of business.

    [​IMG]

    40 years earlier men knew how to handle a problem now we all have feelings and opinions.
    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    Not that much more costly vs over the shelf. Acquiring the tools if you don't already have them involves some one time purchases. Essentially the jigs, and a palm router or decent drill press is all you need - I've used both.
    Edit: In this neck of the woods ALL components my be purchased for cash, no ffl/name/address/etc required.
     
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