CDC Is full of Bullshit

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  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    CDC Gave Facebook Misinformation About COVID-19 Vaccines, Emails Show
    By Zachary Stieber
    September 6, 2022 Updated: September 6, 2022
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention(CDC) passed misinformation to Facebook as the partners worked to combat misinformation, according to newly released emails, in the most recent example of CDC officials making false or misleading claims.

    In a June 3 message, a Facebook official said the CDC had helped the company to “debunk claims about COVID vaccines and children,” and asked for assistance addressing claims about the vaccines for babies and toddlers, including the claim that the vaccines weren’t effective.

    Several weeks later, after U.S. regulators authorized the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines for young children and the CDC recommended them, a CDC official responded by offering unsupported information.

    “Claims that COVID-19 vaccines are ineffective for children ages 6 months to 4 years are false and belief in such claims could lead to back vaccine hesitancy,” the CDC official wrote. The names of all of the officials mentioned in this story were redacted in the emails, which were released as part of ongoing litigation against the U.S. government.

    “COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States are effective at protecting people, including children ages 6 months to 4 years, from getting seriously ill, being hospitalized, and even dying,” the CDC official added.

    There’s no evidence that the vaccines are effective against severe illness and death in young children.

    Lack of Information
    Zero cases of severe COVID-19 were recorded in Moderna’s trial for children aged 6 months to 5 years, including none in the placebo group. In Pfizer’s trial for children aged 6 months to 4 years, six of the seven cases of COVID-19 occurred in children who received a vaccine.

    “The clinical trials were not powered to detect efficacy against severe disease in young children,” Dr. Sara Oliver, a CDC official, said during a meeting before the agency recommended the vaccines for young children.

    Additionally, the endpoint of the trials was a certain level of antibodies, which are believed but not proven to be a way to protect against COVID-19. The level was based on the level from adults in the original trials, which were completed in 2020.

    Efficacy estimates for protection against infection showed low efficacy for Moderna’s vaccine; Pfizer’s was higher, but was deemed unreliable.

    “The trials do nothing to inform us about symptomatic infection risk after Pfizer and show us efficacy is poor after Moderna and we don’t know how long any protection might last,” Dr. Tracy Hoeg, an epidemiologist in California, told The Epoch Times via email, adding that the trials “gave us no information about reduction of severe disease.”

    The CDC, which bills itself as “the nation’s health protection agency,” says on its website that it has pledged to base all its decisions “on the highest quality scientific data that is derived openly and objectively.” Its officials have repeatedly said during the pandemic that the agency makes science-backed decisions.

    The CDC was more circumspect earlier in 2022, the emails show. When asked to adjudicate whether claims were false, an official said that the agency “can’t speak to this until the pharmaceutical companies have reported data on vaccine efficacy against severe illness or death in the <5 year olds.”


    ‘Important Partnership’
    “Thank you so much again for gathering the team to meet with us earlier this week, it was incredibly helpful. Your partnership is critical to us in making sure we can remove false and harmful claims about COVID-19 and vaccines on our platform,” a Facebook official wrote to the CDC in February.

    “In follow up to our meeting, I am sharing below the long list of claims that we currently remove related to the COVID vaccine because public health authorities such as the CDC have confirmed they are false and could contribute to imminent physical harm if believed.”

    Facebook still removes content that says the COVID-19 vaccines aren’t effective against severe illness or death, even though the effectiveness of the vaccines against both infection and severe disease has plunged since Omicron emerged in late 2021, particularly amid the newer Omicron subvariants.

    “When we say that we will remove claims that the COVID-19 vaccines are not effective, we are specifically referring to claims that the vaccines do not generally protect against severe illness or death from COVID-19 or that they provide no protection whatsoever in contracting COVID-19,” Facebook says on its website. “However, we will allow claims that someone can still contract COVID-19 even though they are fully vaccinated.”

    Facebook doesn’t cite the CDC on its site. It identifies some organizations whose advice it takes as fact, including the United Nations’ World Health Organization. It also says that it utilizes “government health authorities” in setting rules around COVID-19 content.

    The CDC has been the source for reviewing many of the claims listed on Facebook’s site, according to the emails.

    On Nov. 8, 2021, for instance, a CDC official reviewed seven claims and designated them all false. All seven are currently listed as false by Facebook.

    That includes the claim that COVID-19 vaccines alter the immune system, which some experts say is true. It also includes the claim that COVID-19 vaccines alter people’s blood. At least one study has found many vaccinated patients have abnormal blood, while blood clots are a known COVID-19 vaccine side effect.

    Facebook was “relying on your expertise” regarding whether certain side effects, including blood clots and Bell’s palsy, can be caused by COVID-19 vaccines, a Facebook official told the agency on Oct. 28, 2021, in another email.

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    Emails between Facebook and the CDC in a court filing. (Screenshot via The Epoch Times)

    ‘Taken Out of Context’
    Facebook wasn’t the only Big Tech company to rely on the CDC.

    Twitter and Google asked the CDC to weigh in on claims surrounding COVID-19 and vaccines, the emails show.

    On April 16, 2021, for instance, a Twitter official said its team “has asked for examples of problematic content so we can examine trends,” adding, “All examples of misinformation are helpful, but in particular, if you have any examples of fraud – such as fraudulent covid cures, fraudulent vaccine cards, etc., that would be very helpful.”

    The CDC responded with a spreadsheet with four areas, including two related to vaccines.

    One was the claim that the vaccines weren’t approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Regulators hadn’t approved any of the vaccines at that time; all were available under emergency use authorization. Another dealt with the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which is managed by the CDC and regulators. The spreadsheet, which hasn’t been released, explained how data from the reporting system was being “taken out of context,” the CDC said.

    “Thank you so much for this; we actioned (by labeling or removing) the Tweets in violation of our Rules,” the Twitter official said.

    Google, meanwhile, asked for help with claims on COVID-19 vaccines in spring 2020, the emails show.

    A previous email release from a Freedom of Information Act request showed how the CDC regularly met with Big Tech companies as part of efforts to get them to crack down on misinformation.

    Officials at Facebook, Twitter, Google, and the CDC didn’t respond to requests for comment.


    Pattern of Misinformation
    The CDC has incessantly promoted vaccination during the pandemic, and offered misinformation on a number of occasions while doing so.

    Three top officials, including the agency’s director, falsely said in June, while pushing for the vaccines to be authorized for young children, that COVID-19 was one of the top five causes of death for the age group. None have yet offered an update after the study they cited—which failed to accurately report CDC data—was corrected.

    The agency has also given false information on its monitoring of vaccine safety and vaccine side effects, updated its definition of vaccine, and altered other web pages, in some cases drastically changing its definitions and advice.

    In a key update in August, the CDC rolled back recommendations to treat unvaccinated people differently, and acknowledged the protection a person receives from recovering from COVID-19.

    “Yesterday’s misinformation is today’s … public health guidance, which is an illustration of the fact that science and censorship are totally incompatible, and that censorship can only halt the progress of science and can halt testing of new hypotheses and new ideas by trying to prematurely foreclose these questions,” Aaron Kheriaty, chief of medical ethics at The Unity Project and a plaintiff in the litigation that spawned the new emails, told The Epoch Times. “And that’s just simply not how science works.”

    In another email released in the case, the CDC labeled several claims as misinformation despite the bulk of the evidence supporting them.

    For example, the claim that “children who are healthy do not need to receive the COVID-19 vaccine” was deemed misinformation even though some experts have said as much, pointing to the declining vaccine effectiveness, the reduced power of newer variants, and the fact that children without comorbidities have never been in much danger from COVID-19.

    In the message, which was sent to more than 100 officials with colleges, nonprofits, and other institutions, the CDC also said that it was misinformation to say that the vaccines are ineffective and not required for children.

    Dr. Todd Porter, a pediatrician in Illinois, said that he used to rely on the CDC and other groups such as the American Academy of Pediatricians, which have aligned closely with the CDC during the pandemic, and didn’t necessarily have time to vet all of their recommendations.

    “This trust and reliance has been shattered during this pandemic and perhaps what saved me is my acknowledgement of the importance of First Do No Harm, balance of risk vs. harm, and the willingness to question and be an independent thinker, even when it does not fit the narrative,” he told The Epoch Times via email. “I just pray that many of the thousands of pediatricians out there are doing the same, yet to what organization can we now turn?”


    RePrinted from Epoch Times
     
  2. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Gee, imagine that, the Gov lied to us, how scandalous! I'm still rootin for Ol Joe though, we know he won the elections fair and square, the gov told us so!
     
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  3. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    All these people and companies, as well as the government, will ultimately be hrld accountable and have to answer for the deaths of many tens of thousands of people due to the deadly concoction falsely termed a "vaccine", and the even more tens of thousands of people severly maimed, the future health ruined, by this deadly witches brew.
     
  4. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Once trust is broken it's very difficult, if not impossible, to regain. This was the one part of the government I thought could be counted upon. I was wrong.
     
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  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    So how do they compensate for this when all hell breaks loose about it . Massive lawsuits ?? The pharma companies were given immunity of prosecution . Will the government be sued ?? What about the other countries ,, did they use our vaccine ?? The .gov doesn't care not 1 fat turd about being sued ,, we'll be the ones paying for any lawsuit ,, which just accounts to another tax hike . Nope ,,, swift death penalties should be given for all involved ,,, politicians to health professionals . But that won't happen either .
     
  6. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Yeah something smells like shit here.
     
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Yeah, I truly thought we could trust the medical agencies of our government but...no. CDC is another agency that that thinks its $hit don't stink and are above and beyond the law, a law onto themselves.

    Sadly, like the FBI they need to be disbanded, disinfected and then built new from the ground up.
     
  8. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    No lawsuits will be allowed. Remember that vaccine they forced you to take or lose your job? Remember being required to sign that piece of paper to take the shot they forced you to take? That paper was a release stating that due the "THE EMERGENCY" you were giving up your right to sue the manufacturer and and all other entities involved (government, people who administered the shot) even due to negligence.

    If there is justice it will come at the end of a rope or rifle barrel.
     
  9. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Yeah the CDC called me for a “survey”. I told them I’d rather go to Wuhan and lick doorknobs than trust the CDC again because they are lying sacks of shit and that was my only answer to their survey questions.
     
  10. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    If you are paying attention you will notice that all of the rats are trying to quietly leave the sinking ship before they get hanged. Where's Fauci going? Where's Nancy going? Bezos? Dorsey? Cheney? Ragedy Ann? Dracula? Where are all those traitors going? Straight to hell if we have anything to say about it.


     
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  11. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    I don't think there is a single government agency that has not become political and unfortunately the higher echelon are all leftist and promote their agenda on the rest of us. What I find very troubling is the military has gone the same way. Higher up officers are just kiss ass to the officer above them just to get promoted, The day of officers leading by example and looking out for the ranks below them are over. Career first men last. Robin Olds now deceased was one of those officers that lead by example -bucked the system when it affect the men under his command. He rose to the rank of General I dare say in todays military he would have been drummed out. Ace fighter pilot in WW II and Vietnam and commandant of the Air Force Academy.
     
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  17. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    "Told you so." -Every conspiracy theorist nutjob on the planet.
     
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