Cellphone 5G conspiracy theories

Discussion in 'Survival Communications' started by oil pan 4, Apr 3, 2020.


  1. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    There is a picture particularly popular on social media right now showing a guy in a tyvek coveralls allegedly installing 5G on a cell tower.
    It's popular among the mentally ill who think all radiation is some kind of government conspiracy. These people tend to be anti nuclear, don't appear to know anything about nuclear weapons, nuclear power or nuclear medical diagnostics and don't seem to be able to comprehend the difference between radio, microwave, visible light, ionizing and particle radiation, a CT vs. MRI machine.
    The out of this world bat shit crazy stuff they come up is exacty like the hubirs stricken vaccine conspiracy theorists.

    I'm sure there is a perfectly logical explanation that can be given from people who have worked on this kind of equipment.
    Since, 1 tyvek material or at least what looks like a tyvex coverall only stops some visible light or the lowest energy ionizing radiation in the UV spectrum. Higher energy Ionizing and any long wave radio wave or microwave goes straight through like it isn't even there.
    2 tyvek suits are used to protect nuclear workers against accidentally carrying off radioactive contamination, these materials don't appear to have any functional place in a cell tower.

    What would be the reason to wear something that looks like a tyvek coverall to service such equipment?
    These coveralls also protect equipment and components from being contaminated with the stuff us animals tend to smear, spray and sprinkle everywhere.
    Is it possibly an anti static electric shock coverall?
    Is there a wave guide or something else that you don't want organic dust entering?
     
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  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

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  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Well the crazies have to have something to do.
    Stirring the pot of a honey bucket is just their style.
     
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  4. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I saw a news interview about this a few years ago about this with the PD departments in my state. The Chief of police's response was ,, " yes we have access to this technology, but we don't use it on average citizens. " But he never said who was the average citizen.
     
  5. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    Another thing. I've heard cell phones are a listening device, even when turned off. The only way to disable it was to remove the battery. Now most all cell phones have non removable batteries. Coincidence ???? [dunno]
     
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  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Mostly the kind with an Apple. Mine definitely has a removable battery, but if anybody is ever listening, they will only hear the air purifier. [LMAO]
     
  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Easy, only buy a phone that has a removable battery or put it away somewhere.
    One thing that comes to mind is leaving your phone in the mail box like on "better call sal"
     
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  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Two ways to read what normal is.

    1. A-B Normal
    2. Abnormal
     
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  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    I would just like to make a NOTE, here: It is Illegal for ANY State and Local Agency to use a StingRay or similar device... and any information gathered by such USE is "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" and can NOT be used in a Court of Law.... This has been demonstrated in Jurisprudence in many State Courts, where this kind of Data has been gathered by State or local Agencies.. They withdraw such information for the Warrants and in Court Testimony, so as to NOT show how they got the information, by Illegal means... The simple FACT is that State & local Agencies are NOT Licensed, and Can NOT be issued a License to operate these Devices on Cellular Frequencies, from the FCC, which licenses ALL their RF Devices.
    Now understand, that the Federal Agencies CAN and Do get operating Authority for such devices, because they are NOT Licensed by the FCC. Their Authority comes from the Office of Science & Technology in the WhiteHouse... So unless a Federal Agent was operating the Device, which many local State & local Cop Shops do, get them to do it for them, any info gained is "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree"... Mostly this is done by "Joint Taskforce" Operations...
    So the moral of this story is: If you get pinched by a State or local LEO, and suspect that they used your Cellphone Data to intercept your location and information, then have your PitBull LAwDog ask the Agency to produce the FCC Station License that gives them the Authority to Operate the Device used to get the Information... They will Back Off, so fast, as to run into their Own A$$es trying to turn around....
     
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  10. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    Unless they are in the 9th circuit -----
     
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  11. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    I'm never taking off the Tin foil
     
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  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Apparently you haven't been keeping track of the 9th Circus recently... Trump has appointed enough Judges to the vacant seats on that Court to turn it Conservative... with more to come...
     
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  13. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    ^^^^ Let us hope n pray^^^
     
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  14. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    Nope, paying little attention to that west coast den of iniquity. Maybe, just maybe, some changes will happen with the bench changes.
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Liberals are but hurt that trump is appointing all these judges, but their guy left the seats empty.
     
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  16. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    Perhaps he couldn't find any prospects socialist enough for HIS taste.
     
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  17. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Pasted Graphic 1.
    CONSPIRACY nuts are reportedly setting phone masts alight and targeting engineers after a bizarre claim 5G "radiation" caused the deadly coronavirus spread.

    The theory originated last month after a video filmed at a US health conference claimed Africa was not as affected by the disease because it is "not a 5G region".
    The myth was quickly debunked after the World Health Organisation confirmed there were thousands of Covid-19 cases in Africa.

    The government has also confirmed there is "no evidence to suggest that 5G has anything to do with Covid-19".

    Celebs have been slammed for sharing the conspiracy theory, including Jason Gardiner and Callum Best, who posted similar claims that 5G can impact the immune system.

    But the claims have still been doing the rounds on WhatsApp via a lengthy voice note - with phone masts now being set alight in the UK.
    Engineers are now also being targeted with social media users encouraging each other to destroy the masts in a Stop 5G
    Police and fire crews were scrambled to one inferno in Birmingham last night when a 70ft mast erupted in flames.
    The cause of the fire is still being investigated but both emergency service was able to confirm the fire was deliberate at this stage.
    Hundreds of people have commented on shocking videos of the blaze posted on the Facebook group.
    One person wrote: "Good needs to be done everywhere evil domination is coming".
    Another said: "It is time to act now. Any 5g tower in your area burn it down! Collect people and stand and fight this. Act now before it’s too late!"
    Others have posted pictures of masts near their homes, with users urging them to "destroy" it.
    While one person in a separate group is keeping a "league" table for cities setting the masts on fire.

    Facebook group.
    The group has now been forced to warn users not to attack engineers.
    A post at the top of the site reads: "We have been notified by certain members of the public that some individuals in this group have decided to target telecoms workers, as they believe and claim them to be 'criminals and genocidists'.
    "You know who you are. If you continue to conduct yourselves like this you will be banned from this group."
    The 5G coronavirus theory thought to have gained popularity last month when a YouTube video supporting the claims was heavily criticised for spreading bogus information during a very real crisis.
    Those working in the sector say there is "quite a big collective" trying to stop 5G from being rolled out across the UK.

    One telecoms engineer, who didn't wish to be named, said: "There are Facebook groups posting videos of the masts being set on fire and people encouraging others to do the same.
    "Wuhan was a test bed for the 5G rollout but is a dumbfounded connection."
    Mobile UK, who represent networks EE, 02, Three and Vodafone, confirmed to The Sun Online some workers had been abused over the false claims.
    They said in a statement: "During this challenging situation, it is concerning that certain groups are using the COVID-19 pandemic to spread false rumours and theories about the safety of 5G technologies.
    "More worryingly some people are also abusing our key workers and making threats to damage infrastructure under the pretence of claims about 5G.
    "This is not acceptable and only impacts on our ability as an industry to maintain the resilience and operational capacity of the networks to support mass home working and critical connectivity to the emergency services, vulnerable consumers and hospitals.
    "The theories are baseless and are not grounded in accepted scientific theory.
    "The mobile industry is putting 100% of its effort into ensuring that the UK remains connected and our workers and the mobile operators have rightly been recognised by the Government as key to the national effort."
     
  18. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Have more 5G and less china virus.
    How's that work?
     
  19. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    Backwards
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