Last summer I found a place at the beach that had a bunch of this stuff. I bought 1k rounds to test drive. When my uncle went down I had him get 10k more.. Remember that 9 dollar a brick CCI Blazer ammo? 40 grain lead bullet? This stuff is about the same except its got a copper washed bullet. Not quite as dirty as the old Blazer and I haven't had any real issues with it. Good target/plinking ammo IMO.