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Discussion: Human Waste Disposal without Water

Discussion in 'Back to Basics' started by BlackhawkFan, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    How do you dispose of human fecal matter if you can't flush?

    Respond with your comments, questions, solutions, real world experiences, guesses....

    I'll start.

    If you're using a wood fire, save the white ash. Make sure the ash is cold, and put a spoon full of it over the poop. It'll kill the smell and keep the flies away.

    Fill the bucket, dump it into your burn barrel or into your compost, and repeat as required.
  2. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Monkey

    If you live where you have a septic system, you can build an outhouse over one of the inspection covers. You can collect rain water, or waste water to use for flushing your toilets.

    If you live in a city, and at a lower elevation than other homes; when the pumps stop, everything flows down hill....
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  4. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    Downloaded the FM. What I see is a very high level directive. Nothing (and I mean NOTHING) that's useful when referencing the FM itself. It relies on an infrastructure of training, SMEs, and references.

    Example: Page 2-30.

    So either you have a library of FMs so you can follow the bread trail, or ???
  5. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    I like the idea of an outhouse over an inspection cover. Hopefully there's enough water for a decent flush.

    I was thinking of collecting urine and using it for the flush. Keep it in a lidded jar or use plenty of bleach.
  6. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    Just looked at 3M-TA3's post in the other thread. I retract my earlier comment about the FM containing only high level concepts. The appendix contains details that're useful.

    Thanks for downloading the FM.
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  7. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Last edited: Sep 28, 2016
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  8. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    I guess ammonia (NH4) is good for plans, but I wonder if urine would eventually poison your soil with salts (NaCL and KCl).
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  9. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    Just as an FYI. Check out the resources area, with Military Manuals and Medical area's in particular, to find other sources of info to fill in the gaps. Field hygiene is a critical SHTF task to have supplies, manuals and general knowledge to be better prepared. When the water stops flowing, the toilets back up and the disease threat rises.....best be prepared or illness is not far behind.
    Resources | Survival Monkey Forums
  10. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    There goes my plan to crap in my favorite neighbors yard...
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  11. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    well crap! now I have to go check the check valve to the main sewer line!
  12. BlackhawkFan

    BlackhawkFan Monkey

    I doubt many have the real estate to dig a slit trench. My first house was on a quarter acre and I'm currently on one acre, but I've lived in lots of trailers, apartments, etc.

    Slightly off topic, but regarding personal hygiene should the SHTF.... When camping, I clean my dishes with sand. The military says this can be hazardous, but I say if a person is careful and chooses clean sand, it can be done indefinitely without incurring harm.
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  13. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    ? Water water everywhere !! Got that covered 6 ways to sunday. I will have water to flush, but do I want to, that is the real question for me. Seem a serious waste to not use urine (aged 30+ days to kill pathnegens ) (sp) mixed 20 parts water to 1 part urine. I on occasion use this on ornamental plants and they grow and bloom like crazy. I have at least 2 books that research all this in depth.
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  14. avagdu

    avagdu Monkey

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  15. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd Site Supporter+

    Beat me to it. Having 5 dogs (more at times) I do a lot of experimenting with dog crap composting.

    Here is the free online version of the Humanure book.
    The Humanure Handbook - Table of Contents
  16. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Where you are located will determine the best means of waste disposal. I have found that digging a "Cat Hole" every time, and letting things dry out instead of burying is useful. Cover with cold ash mixed with dry soil until your stuff is dry, then spread out on the ground in thin layers away from living and travel areas. Can be used for gardens and trees. If you live near running or tidal water, just deposit in the water and let Mother Nature take care of things. This also helps with "problems" that come from retaining waste on site, I.E. animals coming into investigate, smell that can give away a location, and health risks with handling waste, Ect...
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  17. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Last edited: Sep 30, 2016
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