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  1. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Every step they take, every action, every decision will count for nothing if they cannot control the corporate media. End of story. I hate to be so dismissive, I was once spirited enough to openly resist tyranny and stood my ground against the IRS when We, The People filed the largest class action lawsuit in history against them and the courts changed the "law" on the fly, labelled the people as tax evaders and threatened to toss everybody in jail. So, yes you have a valid argument, a damned good point, but you're ignoring the same thing every modern day separatist movement has ignored, and that's the power of mass perception. The alternative media just isn't enough now, especially with all of them being tossed off every social media platform and censored, not to even mentioned being sacrificed at the altar of corporate media at every opportunity. The media is garbage, we know this, some politicians know this, but the VAST majority of Americans simply do not or will not accept this concept. We do have very good numbers on our side, enough to stage a revolution easily, but without effective organization and communication, it will ultimately fail. If the individual States do get on the side of the People, there is a chance to turn some things around, but all it will take for one governor who stands with us to be silenced is, let's say...have a building collapse and people die, like Florida. Think about that recent event for a minute. The corporate media had a field day with those hourly updates, and all the talk about Florida giving old Joe the middle finger evaporated.
    The future of revolutions and civil war will be fought and won by the information conduit -the "Infowar" is the prime field of play. And we are seriously outgunned.
     
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  2. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Yes I get it. All valid points. I too was part of the Tea Party tax protests and I remember all of it very well. I think you are looking at it the wrong way. I think you give the sheep too much credit and you definitely give 'the man' too much credit and even so the people are still waking up. There are all sorts of new social media sources sprouting up daily. The sheep will follow whom ever is hot at the time. If Burt Reynolds makes a GAB channel and you can't find him anywhere else, then all of his fans will find him on GAB. The social communists have made some huge errors. They didn't plan on Trump winning. They rely on incrementalism to keep people from jumping out of the pot and Trump changed that. He made them speed up their plans. If you recall about 2 months ago Biden had called a bunch of communist historians to the white house to help him figure out how to speed up their plans without going too fast. Well the cats out of the bag. His approval rating is in the garbage and Kamala is trying to get him out so she can be president.

    Joe and Kam are fighting each other for the power and NOBODY wants either of them anymore. We are going to win because we have no choice. Yes we have some secret weapons that haven't been revealed yet and the evil satanists also have some massive secret weapon that they haven't revealed yet. I think I know what it is but we'll wait and see.

    Here are some videos showing the battle and all on various new sites with many views. There are even posts on youtube fighting for our side. There are so many now. We even have George Carlin fighting for us from the grave.



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    The big surprise when we win is not that we are going back to normal. We aren't. We are going some place entirely new. The good news is that if we all don't choose where we're going that choice will be made for us one way or another. I can tell you where we are going, we are going to actual freedom. Evolution is not an easy road but just like birth, puberty, and death, it will happen one way or another and it will be painful. We all get to choose if we are going to do it or not and I can't make the choice for anyone. Those who would make the choice for you are not your friend. I can only lead by example and I have done so for the past 20 years and I'm sure I've affected at least 10 people in a positive way. Its up to them to affect another 10. See the world you want and go live it. It really is that easy. Everything else is an excuse.

    You are never ever going to make politicians honest. Trying to fix the system will never work. The system has dead weight and adding more only drags it down. We need to abandon it and have a new system. If it was corrupted and crashed this quickly then there were some flaws. The biggest one being Capitalism making every American just as wealthy and as powerful as royalty. That really pissed them off. Made us a huge target. I don't think they realized the war they started when they did that. We didn't even fight back. We didn't even know what England was doing for 100 years after, and some still don't realize it. We really need to wake people up fully. Maybe AI can help with this. I know whats coming will. People are going to learn the hard way.
     
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    That's the only way people learn at all with the education they've been given. ;)
    And I do like your optimism, but I will continue to remind you it's just misplaced when it comes to solving the problems of this country. You're not wrong, it's just that it really is truly and rightly screwed beyond fixing. Starting a whole new society based on a limited government, a new Congress, the whole works is the only way to really get ahead --and even that is just way too optimistic to actually become a reality. I get it, it's a great topic for discussion, but this isn't fantasy football. There's no actual movement for this, and if there were, it doesn't stand a snowballs chance in Hades' kitchen. I could be wrong...perhaps. Texas could do the right thing and start flexing, but secession is a very dangerous ground, we've got a "Federal Government" shielded by National Security, perpetually indebted to the English Crown and all the umbrella corporation bells and whistles to go along with it due to the last one.
     
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  4. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Life is fantasy football.

    Its happening all around us but we don't see it. What happened in Oregon? Autonomous zone. If that is not secession I don't know what is. Our government (us) even paid for it... continues to pay for it.

    I don't think many out there are willing to actually live the life they want. I mean they talk about it but they never do it. These damned masks are a prime example. I refuse to wear one. My work tried to make me. My customers tried to make me. The television tried but I have not lost my mind so I don't do it. Yeah I got kicked out of some stores but so what. If they want to put themselves out of business that's fine. Of course this story is a metaphor. Some of you will get what I am saying and some wont. The point is that none of us needs anyone's permission to do anything. We ARE free. See it. Do it.
     
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Yeah, I get that. I guess I am older now and I can also see the benefit of social responsibility, too. I don't mean "their" version of it, but a sensible and responsible approach, much like what we once had when communities were much smaller and we weren't overpopulated. We can blame the globalists and socialists all we want, but we're still stuck with the problem, like it or not. And we are truly free, but it has become more like "FREEDUMB", where people are free to be as dumb as they want, and often are. I know the Christian communities once helped each other out, and there is always some kind of charity going on these days. We have all the tools at our disposal to help each other, but as I've said many times, we aren't being shepherded by noble representatives for our cause -the media is very powerful and has been utilized to foment chaos and uprisings all over the world. Nothing makes our country special at all when it comes to the effect a controlled media will have. I think that's why I got involved with Rant back in the day, you remember the "Don't hate the media, Become the media" line. I suppose the punch line was left out on purpose, you know "It doesn't matter what you write because your editor and his boss won't permit you to print the truth" that one.

    I look at it like this. The people are ultimately going to welcome tyranny, applaud it, demand it, and vehemently defend it. We both know that's the shit end of the stick when it comes to any Democracy because 51 percent can decide what the other 49 percent is going to have to deal with. And those numbers are drastically off in favor of the tyrant because the numbers can be whatever they say they are, as we've just learned from recent political events. The only way to come out on top is to pass through the crucible, to be strong enough to accept the things we cannot change. Sure, resist if you are of the mind. Always resist if you feel you can do nothing else. This is your journey in life, your experience will be decided by you in the end. However, the point at the end of the long road we are on, the destination if you will, that isn't something we've got a stake in yet.
    One thing I would do if I were in the position to really knock back the march toward global tyranny is to control those 55 Electoral Votes in Commiefornia. I mean lock it down for the red one hundred percent forever. And this includes cleaning out Hollywierd. Without that crutch, the leftists have nothing to prop themselves up with. But, that's just me thinking out loud.
     
  6. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Last night I watched the movie Titanic, which was a Hollywood piece of crap, but I like it because I like the age of steam. There was something about that time period that I find attractive. At first I thought it was because of the great things the future seemed to hold. The creations were massive, the Titanic, the Spruce Goose, Hearst Castle, Victorian architecture, and on and on. There was, at that time, no limit to what we could do. The imagination of man was the limit. When compared to today it looked so much better.

    My girl friend pointed out that it isn't better than today. The cruise liners are better today than they were then. Things ARE more luxurious. People have all of the stuff we never could dream of. So what exactly was the difference? It was freedom, but more so, it was self determination. The people were in charge of their own lives, decisions, paths. There was no set tread mill for them to get on of work, bills, car, house, wife, kids. That is what we call the American Dream but in reality it is a nightmare. Who wants to work their entire lives to go nowhere and do nothing? Especially when you can make all of your own dreams come true. We all can. I think this is where your FREEDUMB comes from. Working for meaningless stuff and leaving all of your dreams to die is horrible. You might as well die yourself. What a terrible fate. That makes people self destructive and THAT leads to the horrible state of the world today. People self sabotage all the time and that is why.

    Yeah it is all well and good to say freedom like a Braveheart movie, but our dreams are what makes the world great. Just look at the Neanderthal. The only real difference between them and Sapiens is Imagination. The ability to dream and see the future. Sapiens stored water because they could imagine a time without it. Droughts and deserts. Deer, bears, lions, elk, moose, and all the other animals don't do that. I guess there are some apes that do. Our imagination and dreams are THE most important thing from the past 10,000 years and we are trading them for safety and security. The NWO knows this. It is no accident that they set life up this way. It was engineered to be like this to create weak men.

    Perhaps the next phase of our growth is to grab that freedom and self determination that we almost had at the turn of the century. I think decentralization is the only way. Decentralize everything! This is why I like Bitcoin so much. It offers that. Grabbing Cali and taking it back doesn't ensure the future. It may save the present but I get the distinct feeling we need to grow or perish. ...and growth is a painful process but we are definitely in it. If growth and freedom are what we need then you can bet your bottom dollar that is exactly the opposite of what the NWO wants. They want a new dark ages and they say so. We may very well be testing people to see if they are ready to evolve whether they know it or not. Some things are starting to become clear out of the fog.
     
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Well, if we are brainstorming, I'd say it's pretty clear the corporate empire simply wishes to siphon as much wealth from the people as quickly as possible before the global collapse occurs. And the event I speak of is not in the hands of people, but the universe itself, so there's no stopping it. The wealth is required to build and maintain deep underground cities and even possibly a means to escape the planet. These underground structures have been ongoing since the second world war and there are two generations of people involved now who may not even hold allegiance to any nation and flag on the surface. The goal, as best I can surmise, is to become the first to establish order once again after the main event takes place. The rest of the people on the surface are just cannon fodder, useless bottom feeders, chattel property. The question of "who" rules the world in the new age to come is the prize.
    Think of it this way: Remove all the hatred, fear, greed, and religion of the world for one generation without exception. Focus only on advancement in technology and genetic progress. Naturally, this type of society would be highly militarized with a strong focus on discipline and there will be a level of social responsibility unlike we've ever known. There wouldn't be money as we know it, but social credits assigned based on your potential and to be "spent" on acquiring more status to further promote your own projects. For example, you would be a scientist who has completed every level of training, has an exemplary record, and would like to invent a new gadget to create a stable quantum field generator. Your credit value at the time would determine if you can be seen and heard and your project funded with materials and staffed appropriately. The concept of freedom wouldn't be a fundamental tenet, and many people today living on the surface would reject these ideas. Every individual would be working toward self improvement as well as the betterment of all humanity. I am not talking about communism or fascism or socialism, think more along the lines of Star Trek. All of the philosophies of our past would be out of place and hold no value. But, what would be the end result? I am saying this because this is the very real offer on the table when we bring up the subject of a total global reset. Naturally, this example was pretty optimistic and may not at all be what eventually takes place. But it is one possibility out of many.
     
  8. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    The universe is conspiring? forced evolution? Is that what we are talking about? You are saying that mankind needs to evolve and become a multi-planetary species or die. The massive wealth grab is people doing this so that mankind can live?

    That sounds like a dystopia to me. I understand the need to make sure resources go towards actual productive ends but the main 2 problems with a future like that would be the lack of freedom and the centralization of credit/money/power. This would create a new species, not man. A social credit system is by definition run by a group of people who decide what is worth some credits and who starves. Maybe that's good, I don't know. This is what China uses and they use it to control the people very well. You get to eat if you write a post online saying that the government is great. You starve if you want privacy. It ends up corrupt and evil and does NOT allocate resources in the best direction... ever. What it really does is support the club. The group of approved individuals at the expense of everyone else.

    Probably one of the big problems with freedom is that people think it means chaos and disorder. Its strange, this test the world is going through, is testing if dictators can kill us all but it is also testing the people to see if they are ready to evolve. In the perfect future that I see, each and every single person will be strong and capable of doing anything. Every single man and woman can grow their own food, they can build their own home, they can make anything they want. The old saying about tough times makes strong men seems to prove that we should always have tough times. I think Star Trek like futures are ultimately impossible because if everything was easy and handed to us by computers and robots we would lose the ability to do it ourselves. We would literally die from lack of want.

    Of course the problem with all of these 'what ifs' is that there are people who can't live with out help from others. Some people are handicapped. Some have mental issues. Some are even OK but have become so used to others doing things for them that they can't see any other way. So I can see both sides but what happens if we lose our humanity? Is that evolution? I don't see the benefit.

    What I mean to say is that it CAN work both ways. We can become cold hearted, emotionless drones, and we can also become the best of men and it works either way. We have enough resources to take everyone with us and we also have people who are with out a soul. Both exist. Both options exist and it is only our choice that makes us men.
    The universe is conspiring? forced evolution? Is that what we are talking about? You are saying that mankind needs to evolve and become a multi-planetary species or die. The massive wealth grab is people doing this so that mankind can live?

    That sounds like a dystopia to me. I understand the need to make sure resources go towards actual productive ends but the main 2 problems with a future like that would be the lack of freedom and the centralization of credit/money/power. This would create a new species, not man. A social credit system is by definition run by a group of people who decide what is worth some credits and who starves. Maybe that's good, I don't know. This is what China uses and they use it to control the people very well. You get to eat if you write a post online saying that the government is great. You starve if you want privacy. It ends up corrupt and evil and does NOT allocate resources in the best direction... ever. What it really does is support the club. The group of approved individuals at the expense of everyone else.

    Probably one of the big problems with freedom is that people think it means chaos and disorder. Its strange, this test the world is going through, is testing if dictators can kill us all but it is also testing the people to see if they are ready to evolve. In the perfect future that I see, each and every single person will be strong and capable of doing anything. Every single man and woman can grow their own food, they can build their own home, they can make anything they want. The old saying about tough times makes strong men seems to prove that we should always have tough times. I think Star Trek like futures are ultimately impossible because if everything was easy and handed to us by computers and robots we would lose the ability to do it ourselves. We would literally die from lack of want.

    Of course the problem with all of these 'what ifs' is that there are people who can't live with out help from others. Some people are handicapped. Some have mental issues. Some are even OK but have become so used to others doing things for them that they can't see any other way. So I can see both sides but what happens if we lose our humanity? Is that evolution? I don't see the benefit.

    What I mean to say is that it CAN work both ways. We can become cold hearted, emotionless drones, and we can also become the best of men and it works either way. We have enough resources to take everyone with us and we also have people who are with out a soul. Both exist. Both options exist and it is only our choice that makes us men.
     
  9. johnbb

    johnbb Monkey+++

    Said this many times Freedom Without Responsibility is Anarchy in todays society we have far to many people who are irresponsible and we are seeing the results daily from our politicians, military leaders, and john doe
     
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