Emergency Powers in France-

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by stg58, Nov 19, 2015.


  1. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+ Founding Member

    Scary to think barry having these powers.

    Very wide and open to interpretation.


    France extends 'state of emergency' powers for three months (Wired UK)

    "but will likely focus on activity deemed to be promoting terrorism or violence."

    "It also allows authorities to conduct house searches and place suspects under house arrest without judicial warrant."

    "Suspicious behaviour can stem from behaviour, acquaintances, comments and projects"
     
  2. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    The talking heads on American TV are already advocating 'see something say something' George Orwell welcome home
     
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I am a BIG Fan of..... " See something, Waste the Perp, before they can do anymore damage..." In my AoO, the Law is only around to pickup the Bodies, after the fact....
     
  4. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    The law in the lower 48 usually arrives to document the crime and victim(s).
     
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  5. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey++

    So in other words, 'state of emergency' means dictatorship, even if it is claimed to be only temporary.

    Looks like the terrorists won, despite calls for French people to go about their business as usual as a way of not allowing the terrorists to win. As a result of their attacks, government has limited the freedoms of the French citizenry, not that they had that much to begin with.

    They're not the only ones. We got DHS and TSA as a result of our terror attacks.
     
  6. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey++

    If it happens to be summer or fall, you have a hungry Mr. Brown to feed. You can save law enforcement the trip.
    Or has Mr. Brown only a taste for careless liberals who think he's cute and cuddly? Sorry, just couldn't resist.
     
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  7. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    "Looks like the terrorists won" doesn't fit the bill when you are talking about islam. They have one goal, and isn't just curtailing liberty. Convert, become a slave, or die is their mandate. So as things are, they have not won...but they have made huge strides toward their end goal.

    Crusades, anyone?
     
  8. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Yeah. Gimme a double.
     
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  9. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Mr. Brown isn't usually available, on demand, locally... However, Mr. King Crab, and his friend, Mr. SandFlea, both live right out front, in the Inlet, and will dispose of anything, recently dead, thrown to them, in a day or two... and the Inlet is 100 Fathoms deep, 200 Yds off the dock....
     
  10. TailorMadeHell

    TailorMadeHell Lurking Shadow Creature

    Darth Sidious/Chancellor Palpatine anyone? Thought Police. Hello 1984. I wouldn't say that George Lucas was being prophetic though someone did pay attention to his work. George Orwell on the other hand...
     
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  11. Legion489

    Legion489 Shining the Light of Truth

    Are you sure the French aren't going house to house to issue white flags? Making sure everyone has enough wine to last the duration? Passing out cards to waiters on how to say snooty things to moslems? France would be a nice place if they could just get rid of the French, but replacing them with moslems is not really an improvement, just a change.
     
  12. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    I hear they taste like chicken..... and crab love them some stinky chicken bait. :)
     
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  13. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    This is Zero's wet dream but worse. Martial Law in the US is his goal so he can become a dictator. Then he will have to be taken out of office with force by "We The People".
     
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  14. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    It's twue, it's twue!
     
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  15. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it......
    A little history lesson
    (abridged and quoted from the 16-Nov Sovereign Man newsletter)


    "On April 5, 1793, decorated French military commander Charles Dumouriez caused a sensational panic in Paris when he fled the country and defected to Austria.

    It had been nearly four years since French peasants stormed the Bastille, the event that historians generally regard as the start of the French Revolution.

    And hardly a week had gone by since without some major crisis, emergency, or tragedy in France.

    There were regular violent riots across the country-- in Paris, other major cities, and even the rural countryside. Widespread massacres were commonplace.

    And given that one of the key goals of France’s new revolutionary government was to eliminate Christianity from the nation, civil war between religious factions broke out as well.

    To cap things off, France was under constant threat of foreign invasion.

    Austria and Prussia were not only waging conventional war against France, but both nations had sent highly trained agents to infiltrate French borders to pursue violence and chaos from within.

    It was exhausting. French people were living in perpetual fear, and the wanton death of innocents had become an unfortunately normal part of life.

    So when it was found that Dumouriez (a French citizen) had defected to the enemy, people hit their breaking points. Enough was enough. And they cried out to the government to save them.

    The government listened.

    The very next day, on April 6, 1793, the new French government established the Committee of Public Safety.

    The Committee was given broad, emergency powers since it was a time of such crisis.

    And under the leadership Maximilien Robespierre, the French people got their protection.

    Robespierre passed the ‘Law of Suspects’, allowing the government to essentially imprison anyone they wanted for any reason.

    It was impossible to tell friend from foe back then; you never knew if someone was a loyalist, or a Christian, or an Austrian spy, or any number of counter-revolutionaries.

    So people were required to carry special certificates indicating that they were good and dutiful citizens. Those without would be imprisoned, and potentially executed.

    The University of Chicago estimates that nearly 30,000 either died in prison or were executed as a result of this law.

    Then there was the Law of the Maximum, which attempted to stabilize an ongoing financial crisis by fixing the prices of goods and services in the country. The law also imposed the death penalty on those who did not follow the rules.

    They also passed the Law of 22 Prairial, which awarded the Committee even more power to arrest, try, and execute anyone deemed to be suspicious or disloyal.

    The law also prevented anyone accused of a crime from being able to call witnesses or have defense counsel.

    Plus it required that ALL citizens report potentially suspicious or disloyal neighbors to the Committee. If you see something, say something.

    This period in French history became known as the Reign of Terror, or often simply ‘the Terror’.

    Coincidentally, this is where the first modern use of the word ‘terrorist’ is found.

    Except that it wasn’t used to describe the counter-revolutionaries. Or the rebels. Or the foreign agents.

    It turns out that “terrorist” was originally a term used to describe government officials who executed these oppressive tactics under the guise of keeping people safe from their enemies.

    Governments have a dangerous tendency to never let a serious crisis go to waste.

    The US government spent trillions of taxpayer dollars to fight a War on Terror that made the world less safe and Americans less free, all to protect them from a threat that has a statistical likelihood of 0.0%.

    (You’re far more likely to be shot by a police officer than to ever even see a terrorist.)

    Yes, the desire for revenge runs deep. And that’s understandable.

    But the greatest thing to fear is the consequent loss of freedom"
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2015
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  16. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++ Site Supporter++

    I believe, if given the chance, Barry will do exactly the same. The 2016 elections will be suspended and it will take a military coup to remove him from office. He has made it clear he has no concern with "the consent of the governed". He is America's greatest threat.
     
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