Okaaaaay! That guy is a stone idiot. Don't EVER dump liquid fuel into a stove from a large container. ESPECIALLY when you think the last fire that was in it is out. You just might be wrong. In the entire rest of your life, you only need to be wrong once. Pour however much fuel you want into a separate container. Cap the big fuel can and set it at least ten feet away. Then dump the fuel you need into your stove. If if flares up you probably won't lose more than all the hair off your arm. And maybe your eyebrows. Why get all paranoid about the big fuel container? Because many fuels--like gasoline, for example--create fumes that are heavier than air. When you pour gasoline (for example) on a pile of waste wood, the fumes can run downhill in an invisible stream. When you torch off the fire, you can burn all the hair off you feet. The fire flash only lasts a moment,but.... An open can of gas sitting near you can be torched off and blow flaming gasoline all over you. This video shows fumes torching off around an idiot that was lighting a gas fire with a cigarette lighter. ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hdnY2izjzk Never do that: toss in a flaming torch instead. The hobo stove build is painful to watch. The guy should buy a hammer and learn how to use the round end.
Troof! Kid I went to school with had to wear a mask his entire life, he did that with gasoline on a brush pile that was still smoldering and he got 4th deg burns to his face and hands! Couldn't handle sunlight or any kind of heat, died when he was 14 from the constant infections he was always getting!!! Don't Do It!!!
I've always been of the mind liquid fuel stoves should be designed and built for that purpose even with a "wick" soaked in some form of flammable liquid. Kero and cooking oils tend to be a bit safer to work with, but there is still the safety problems when working with liquid fuels. Hobo stoves, IMO at least, should only be solid fuel burning (wood or paraffin wax) since it's easier to continue to feed fuel into or put out with water/smothering if it becomes an issue. You want an interesting hobo stove? Use a tuna can paraffin wax burner made from crayons and plop it inside. Burns for about 25-30 minutes and isn't dependent on local fuel sources. Just make sure the crayons are wax based before starting. Also, I've found old steel coat hangers make a good "support rack" at the top of hobo stoves. Typically, they are tough enough to handle the heat, but light enough not to worry about lugging around. The best I've found are the ones made with the cardboard tube along the bottom. Remove the tube, cut the side bars to length and you have your "support rack." If you have a second one, the hook portion can also be used to move your stove with while it's cooling. (don't move while burning) Additionally, the carboard tube can be cut (I use aviation snips) to one inch lengths, (30 mm for our Metric Monkeys) stuffed with cotton dryer lint, pour wax into/over the whole thing and you have a waterproof emergency fire starter plug.
I learned my lesson on a alcohol boat stove,I thought the flame was out when I added more fuel to the stove,it got real exciting real quick luckily I through a sheet over it to smother it while my back was up against the fire extinguisher Once it was out I was thinking the extinguisher .probably would have been handy to put the fire out.
Tough crowd. Uncle morgan fire was out 100% unless it can keep going under water your advice is good about flash and large container pouring but it was not a issue here. And I will use my camp axe any way i think is best for the job i am trying to do
Harsh crowd for a reason - not everyone on the board/visiting is a working "adult' BTW - hobo stove? Tons of vids out there. Some even make sense..... Anyway, thanks for posting, always good to get another view....
I did that once when I was young and really really dumb. No injuries but the flash from the vapors was really there and right now! Somehow never had the nerve to try to repeat it. Never used gasoline to light a fire since. Kerosene, diesel, or charcoal lighter in limited quantities.
Was filling a Coleman pump lantern 60 years ago at a camp site in the mountains outside of Alamogordo NM. Had it on a picnic table that placed the lamp on the table about 6 ft above and about 15 feet up a slight hill from a campfire ring with a good fire. That was the old naptha Coleman fluid, not white gas. Flash fire came up the hill and stopped at the foot of the table, enough breeze or something kept it from coming up to the can. Woke me up very well thank you. It is funny but a lot of fuels will not explode in high concentrations of the fuel, but heavy vapors, by the simple process of mixing with the air, will have at least part of the vapors in the right ratio of fuel and air to explode. Good idea to never have a propane tank in a garage or green house and if you do have a propane salamander type heater, use it a couple feet above the floor. While it may sound stupid, if you are not really up to date on propane or natural gas, please have gas co or propane dealer check it out and they will usually give you the paper work for the fire department or building inspector to keep it legal and keep your insurance agent off your back. damoc, there are some really stupid people out there who know everything and refuse to read instructions, they usually qualify for season passes at the emergency room.
Tough crowd, yes.... we have much experience to learn from as a membership. Better safe than sorry, as they say.
You think this crowd is tough, try life in some third world shithole where life isn't valued like here! Seen plenty of folks blown up or maimed for life attempting something they shouldn't with things they shouldn't have had in the first place! As a combat medic, I got to see the end results of plenty of stupid, or simple ignorance! Most were pretty brutal, and most folks around the victim simply laughed at the stupidity while quietly thanking what ever god it wasn't them that time!
We can argue in a respectable way without name calling. The Mannerly Art of Disagreement I also suggest another look at the CoC. Resource - Site Rules | Code of Conduct We do have an older forum member base that can often be a little rough around the edges and not exactly subtle, but they do have their benefit. I do apologize @damoc for what may seem to be a thorough thrashing, but is really only a little finger wagging. You are welcome to post any other information you find useful.
I think it is safe to say that the thrashing was not on @damoc, but on the idiot that created the vid. That said, the old timers are not particularly sympathetic to the soft approach being rammed into society from some segments of the population. Again, most of the site's olde tymers have tested luck a few times. Those that are here won the gamble.
Agreed, but it was still abrasive and not necessary. But, a moot point it is by now. It's not surprising to see so few new posters around here with the old point guard in place.
Well I am the "Idiot that created the vid" And I do accept and appreciate negative comments especially when they are correct I missed something i should have demonstrated better fuel management. I myself was in no danger and have worked with multiple fuel types before and kerosene is relatively safe. But Idiot I am not maybe this is why i have been a member here for so long yet rarely post?
Nein. I have more hair than him, and the word "an" is the appropriate indefinite article to be used, preceding a noun beginning with a vowel....(the word 'hotel' is an exception to that rule)...though to be fair, it may simply be a keystroke error.
