Is Ron Paul in danger?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jonas Parker, Dec 24, 2007.

  1. Jonas Parker

    Jonas Parker Hooligan

  2. hartage

    hartage Monkey+++

    Wow, that was a waste of time reading that garbage. I'm not saying people don't get whacked for upsetting the status quo. That rant however, sounded schizophrentic. I pictured a shivering little boy out in the forest shouting threats into the darkness. Not knowing where it is going to come from or when. Behaving very much like a hunted prey animal.

    If he is going to mention his position on something then say so clearly. Say that people feel strongly about it and are willing to throw their own lives away. That level of commitment will be clear enough. But making assumptive, empty threats ? Using garbage like "worlds deadliest creature who ever stalked the earth". You only show how truely afraid you are. That betrays that YOU think the agressor is near omnipotent that the ball is in their court and everything is up to them. That betrays that YOU think that you are a helpless prey animal.

    On the publicity side it's a shame that RP's name gets associated with what sounds like a lunatic rant. Each rant that RP gets associated with diminishes his name.

    Declaring commitment to a candidate helps them. Making threats "for" them makes them seem like just a joke, just another lunatic. Making threats for a candidate does not help them in any way.
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    A great disappointment would be to assassinate Paul and make him a martyr. The Paul movement could branch off into a more desperate rally, to include protests and civil disobedience. This of course would have to be brutally put down by the sickeningly massive numbers of police and security which the US and just waiting for such a task. Despite what some may claim, certain elitists are not even the least bit shaken by his campaign and support. This is the true test which has taken decades to culminate. What most may perceive as a valid, realistic campaign is nothing more than a social experiment and test of thought control. Regardless of how many people support Paul, the outcome has already been determined. Contingencies have been thought out, and just like a chess match- all possibilities have been absorbed into the equation. There is no better way to further the goals of world domination and tearing down nationalism than to offer results of the election in favor of Hillary and show how pathetic Ron Pauls attempt was. In that single moment in time, the entire "freedom" movement will have its answer, and all hope will dissipate as quickly as the movement began.

    Let us look at this sensibly. All corporate media is controlled. Even with his online supporters, Ron Paul falls way short on popularity. Right wing conservatives rule the airwaves, and they have total control over the majority of christians, spearheaded by the 700 Club dictates of UberConservative Robertson. The Liberals and the "other" democrats are more than willing to adopt Hillary again, this time as CEO, and it doesn't even matter what she says- her backers are the Rothschilds...and history has already proven that they always get what they want. And so, with no media (i.e., no mind control) in favor of Paul, and with no elite backing or luck with overcoming the new DieBold voting machines, I ask you seriously- how is his candidacy a REAL threat to the elitists? And shall we even get into the fact that this Republican candidate won't receive his fair share of television time? I regularly run into people ALL THE TIME who just have NO CLUE wtf Ron Paul is. They never heard of him. Ron who?

    By breaking the will of the movement, in any type of victory no matter how scandalous, the Ron Paul supporters will only slide back under the carpet for four more years. Then, of course they will have the increasing burden of picking back up where they left off, only with another candidate, and that changes things a whole lot. Paul only has a few good years left in him, at best.

    (All that aside...I HOPE that Dr. Paul does get elected. I hope he does kick some ass and I hope he does change America. But, HOPES will not win this election.)
  4. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Brokor.... you're like the little imaginary devil that pops up over my shoulder to remind me how deep the rabbit hole goes.

    We need a smiley of a tinfoil hat wearing devil. :)
  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    ROFL. You're not the first to use such an analogy, BJ. :)

    I absolutely admire Ron Paul, though. He is a wonderful human being. But, I look at the American system (politics, government, media, society, philosophy) as being inherantly flawed and completely too far gone to remedy. The time to correct our mistakes was in 1776, and from that day forward we left the back door wide open, and just like Pandora's Box, it can never be closed again.

    Nevertheless, I also admire patriotism. To an extent. Just remember that no matter how precarious the situation becomes, it will be our resolve -our relentless pursuit of freedom over tyranny that will see us through. What makes me seem like the little devil whispering in your ear is my extraordinary ability to fully accept the facts and to carefully scrutinize the details instead of blindly fighting for a cause. At times I say the things many are too timid to admit, which is both a blessing as well as a curse.

    Paul really is a decent man. He is a fair man who is doing battle with monsters and demons. The only kicker is...there is no such thing as divine intervention. So, here's to luck. Cheers.
  6. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    [beer] I'll take luck, but I'll be praying too. :D
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    LOL. Hey, if you want devout religious leaders, vote Constitution Party. ;) nah, they're a bunch of whackos.
  8. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Courage in the Crosshairs: Ron Paul and the Republic

    By Captain Eric H. May
    Military Correspondent

    Mideast Murder

    "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." -- Voltaire

    Ecclesiastes is right when it says that there is nothing new under the sun. The Thursday assassination of Pakistani reformer Benazir Bhutto gives the world a fresh reminder of the old lesson that those who lead the way invite attack. Clearly Bhutto herself was aware of this grim reality, since she had discussed it months earlier in a letter to supporters laying the blame for her possible assassination squarely on the shoulders of Pakistani strongman Pervez Musharraf.

    The devilish details of Bhutto's death have all Pakistan raising hell with a wave of riots that could turn in to a revolution before all is said and done. Her frenzied supporters demand answers to questions that their government does not have the credibility to answer satisfactorily. Where was her security at the fatal moment? Who fired the shots that rang out across the crowd, the pistol waving gunman in grainy photos from the scene or the sniper reported by Bhutto supporters? After being shot and then suicide bombed, why does the official autopsy report released a day later claim that neither bullets nor bombs had anything to do with her death?

    Some Middle East experts estimate that two thirds of Pakistanis believe that Musharraf and the corrupt Establishment upholding him were either guilty of committing the Bhutto murder, allowing it it to happen or covering up details after it happened.

    Domestic Deadliness

    "We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, if you will." -- Dick Cheney

    All the sound and fury from Southwest Asia would signify nothing in America if the vast majority of Americans believed that the United States of "unitary executive" Bush was fundamentally different from the Pakistan of military dictator Musharraf. The vast majority of Americans, though, believe that the Bush League is capable of any level of mischief. In fact, the two thirds of us who detest him also believe that Bush and the corrupt Establishment upholding him were either guilty of committing the 9/11 mass murder, allowing it it to happen or covering up details after it happened.

    In these troubled days, it is quite credible to innumerable US citizens that we have been neoconned into standing our republic on its head. The new millennium was dubbed the New American Century by Ivy League Bush Boyz and Israel-first Zionazis, then on 9/11 -- the date number coinciding with our national emergency code -- a manufactured terror spectacular began a counterrevolution against our Declaration and Constitution. Our new King George established secret prisons, torture chambers and imperial wars, while snatching away civil rights all the way back to Magna Carta.

    To a sizable chunk of the American electorate, the radical analysis in the paragraph above seems to be a fair exposition of our current political crisis, and the inability of such views -- or indeed of any anti-establishmentarian views -- to find expression in the mainstream media is just so much more proof that the System is flawed, the Establishment is inimical and the New American Century has always been a Bush League codeword for a dictatorial New World Order.

    Paul's Peril

    "I think we're at a point right now where they're still hoping I will go away, but the fact that they've started to attack me means that we are annoying them." -- Ron Paul

    Since 9/11, the Internet has become the printing press of the Second American Revolution, fearlessly exploring issues that would never receive the imprimatur of the Globalist/Zionist mainstream media, political parties or apathetic academics. Its power is so unsettling to the elites and their pet projects of the Homeland State and Global War that in recent months the House and Senate have declared war upon it as an instrument of homegrown terror.

    To the elites the most dreadful of all netizens is Dr. Ron Paul, the 10-term independent Republican from Texas, whose bread and butter as a presidential candidate is the freethinking Internet user. Paul has boldly proclaimed his presidential bid "The Ron Paul Revolution," and lived up to this billing by proposing the abolition of Homeland Security and the Global War. He envisions and proclaims vastly increased individual liberty and vastly reduced taxation. Organized efforts by the mainstream media to restrict or ridicule his message have only made it and his political base grow larger. He has been dubbed "Dr. No" for his prescription of less government to heal our sickly body politic, and there is a real possibility that untold millions of Americans will say yes to Dr. No in the upcoming state primaries.

    To end where I began, there is nothing new under the sun, and those who propose radical treatments for radical maladies should be aware of that fact. To give credit and praise when and where it is due, Dr. No has spoken publicly on the dangers of his reformist -- even revolutionary -- candidacy, and pledged to continue forward. The Internet has been abuzz for weeks with rumors, reputedly from inside the American power elite, of considerations and contingencies to "remove" the candidate and candidacy that threaten to roll back the 9/11 counterrevolution. Across the World Wide Web those who long for a return to freedom remind themselves that the last candidate to endanger the powers that be as much as Ron Paul was Ross Perot, who temporarily abandoned his bid for the White House in 1992, claiming that an earlier King George Bush -- father of the present King George Bush -- had threatened him and his family with the CIA. As Ross Perot and Benazir Bhutto would agree, running for office can be a harrowing experience, one from which those without the courage of conviction would simply run away.

    # # #

    Captain May is a former Army military intelligence and public affairs officer, as well as a former NBC editorial writer. His political and military analyses have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, the Houston Chronicle and Military Intelligence Magazine. For his homepage and schedule of upcoming interviews, refer to:

    ***note: I don't know anything about this author or his credentials. Thought the article was relevent. I have been looking over his website. Hmmm. Don't know.***
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