Jerry might not like this one! Outdoor Edge!

Jerry first hello and you have some beautiful knives/art!!

Outdoor Edge knives I bought two of them as it was a Christmas deal in 2022. The handle was cheap was not the easiest to open but the blade WOW was it sharp. My first two came with the box cutter type blade very very sharp I believe the steel is surgical stainless don't quote me on that.

So I was looking on Amazon and found that Outdoor Edge had a nice metal handle blade! It came with the 2x clip point blade, clip point with 50% serrated.

The metal handle took this from an Okey work knife to WTF why would I carry anything else day today? Really!!! It's spring assisted opening and you can change the blade the blades are easy to sharpen if you know how.

This going to be a EDC? Yes!!! Easy tell me what other company offers there folding knives in several different blade shapes? I can go from a box cutter blade to a clip point in a few seconds.

Really to me the best part is I don't care what I use this blade to cut! I can always sharpen it or if I'm lazy or chip the blade for $20 I have 5 extra blades sent to me from Amazon. That's 5 blades of you don't chip the blade bad think how long you can keep sharpening them again and again.

I have only used there 3.0 blades so I don't know much about the longer blades for game. Yet if the blade is made the same way you will have a surgical scalpel in your hands to clean your game! Not sure about the handle or how it feels.

 

I've never heard of them but will certainly look into them now that you recommended them. Thanks! Maybe you could post the link of the knife you bought on Amazon so we can check it out?

I have a couple of metal handle knives, both are small pocketknives, and while it makes them heavier, I don't mine and prefer them. One is CRKT Pilar, I like the blade thickness and its point, and the other is a CRKT Squid which is probably my favorite, small, durable, and sharp.

 

Lost me once the steel is called “surgical stainless” that is marketing BS from the 70s/80s for “unknown Chinese metal like product”. Often it was a version of 440 but mostly now is 420.

 

Interesting is that the blades are made in Japan! I just looked that up I have never had a problem with Japanese metal or blades. I don't know about you?
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I can send the link I bought the green topo map one for $40 and to not have to worry about the blade at all of you chip it or cut something you should not!

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“Surgical Steel Japan” is also a quick flash back to 80s knives….and not in a great way. The knives may be assembled in Japan, or some element of finishing, however at those prices the steel is almost certainly a Chinese “4??” .

All that said, if it makes you happy that is all that matters.

 

There is a market for everything. Probably works for its price. I carry a sak everyday.

 

I guess to some people that matters about the metal and that's fine. I really don't care it's a $40 knife that has several options. Also do I care if I destroy it or lose it like I would a $400 knife?
No not really!

Yet your talking to a guy who invaded Iraq with a ziptie as my rear pin of my M16A2. Also a 18 hour firefight to take Baghdad in Saddam's Palace.

 

As I said mate, if it makes you happy I’m good with it. The only point was making was that the descriptions of the steel (their’s not yours) are somewhat misleading and as steel (much more so the heat treat of it in all honesty) is at the heart of a knife’s function then it has some importance. As you say for $40 it’s not big gamble.

 

Yeah, I am not much for super expensive work knives either. Now, having said that, I have a couple of Emerson's that I paid quite a bit for and love'em; however, for the most part, a good, old fashion Gerber Gator is what I prefer for work, a rubberized grip, big enough to handle most jobs yet not too big to carry comfortably, with steel good enough to hold an edge and easy to sharpen and should the blade break/chip, I don't have to take out a bank loan to replace it. Now, like most, I would like to have a large collection of extremely high-end knives and even some artistic ones (because they are works of art), but the truth is I simply can't justify them, so I have a couple to satisfy the itch and keep my wants vs. my needs in check.

 

Bandit99 agree! I know I abuse my knives at work so why spend $$$ when a $ knives will be the job done just as nice.

 

Interested Sir I presume? Don't want to offend anyone. But you have intended me enough I ask you why do you feel a $400 folding knife that's used and abused is better investment then a $40 knife that I can change the blade.

I'm sorry if I sound like a asshole or smartass that's the LEO in me I'm a little to blunt at times.

Yet I'm really interested in hearing what you have to say. I could be wrong!

 

Well I generally don’t like folding knives to start with (as they are already broken there in the middle). There is no doubt an element of diminishing return in knives as the price goes up but the performance does not go up in a consummate sense. And while I certainly own more knives than your average bunny around $400 and many many well in excess of this. I think the sweet spot price wise for a working blade is probably around $200 and (in production knives) I look to ESEE and Becker in that range. If I am going to stake my life on any tool (gun, knife, vehicle) I want the thing that is best capable to looking after me. The majority of my fixed blades are Busse. In a knife I absolutely want to have some confidence that it won’t fail (break/chip/blunt) when I need it. I also want to know that I can sharpen it myself over and over as needed and that it is made of a steel that is suitable for the tasks I am going to use it for, more importantly that the HT of the given steel is appropriate to the intended use of the knife. Last thing you want is to bust a blade doing some of the harder tasks in breaking up a larger critter for example (splitting a ribcage for example).

With one good fixed blade I can do many tasks (not just dressing game) that preclude the need for multiple tools.

No need to apologise for being blunt, I have some small amount of experience in the LEO space

 

Andy, yeah, I also have a distrust of folding blades and will always prefer a fixed, full tang but, as you know, a folder can be really handy, like my old Gerber Gator that sits on my belt alongside my Leatherman but I certainly wouldn't use it like I would one of my more expensive fixed blades.

"If I am going to stake my life on any tool..."
Now, that is a completely different variable, and I wouldn't have a problem spending $1000 for the best fixed blade available if my life depended on it, say in combat or a survival scenario but for a simple everyday tool, used to get work done, I simply cannot justify the expense not when a $50-$60 one gets the job done.

Having said all this, I understand why many people have a huge investment in knives and their fascination with them (history, design, advancements, metallurgy, the thousand skills necessary...) the same with firearms. Hell, it's art! Believe me, if I won the Powerball Lottery (was $1.2 billion last week) I would have a huge collection of both, in my specialty build vault, where I would sit to admire them. Yeah, good knives are works of art to me...

 

I have folders and your are correct, their utility can’t be denied as long as people respect the limitations of their design.

I personally look at each and every one of my ventures bush here as an occasion where my tools (guns, knives, sleeping bags, packs, boots.vehicle etc etc) may be the difference between living and being really really uncomfortable (at the least). As I said for me the sweet spot of price/performance for me is that ESEE/Becker (there are others) range of 4-6inch fixed blades. In US$ these are mostly between $80 and $200 for the 1095 fixed blades. I certainly trust all the ESEEs I have. My own taste and general preference is for something a little different however. And for that I need to spend more. The Busse ASH1 (I have a number of variants of it) are my most carried and used fixed blades.

 

This is my most used larger fixed blade….

 

When I am hunting these three will always be on me or in my pack….

 

And when I was picking one to serve many roles when I was in Africa, this is where I landed….

 

I would agree with you on fix blades are better knives and hold up much better. My prize knife

1940's made USMC Ka-bar that did a tour in Vietnam.

2002: 21st century Ka-bar wife bought it for me before I went to Iraq in 2003. Did three tours and as a weapon of war it cuts flesh so easy.

I also have several manufacturers and custom fixed blade knives. Some I even built myself. I wish I could have taken my Fallujah knife that I made in Iraq but some dumb policy stopped me. I do hope my Sgt was able sneak it back even if he lied to me about it. It was a beautiful knife.

Not sure of the steel it was the same stuff we found in Fallujah car area that we made bullet proof plates for the Humvees. It was a thick steel had a redneck cut the design out for me with a welding torch. I used files and sand paper until all of it was smooth remember right the blade was 12 inches long so I would make the handle 6+ inches long. So 18 inches give or take?

Took hours and hours on watch and my time off with a file to shape the blade into an edge. I sharpened her made a 550 cord handle. It was an awesome knife because it was so raw and savage looking everyone wanted to use it.

People in Iraq you could stick a gun to there head and they would say nothing! Yet as soon as that flash of the blade comes in there eyes! You see a much more cooperative people. Gun = fast death! Knife= Long slow and drawn out and so painful.

They feared the blade more then the gun.