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Obama Ready To “Shutdown” 16 U.S. States

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by Quigley_Sharps, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    It has never happened before in the history of the United States. We The People are watching a political game of chess unfold from our nations leaders and are on the very brink of a financial catastrophe like no other since our nations founding. When and if this occurs in just a mere 11 days, on October 17, President Obama is not looking to fix it but rather “shut down” or terminate the charter of 16 U.S. States!

    The train wreck that was predicted with the Affordable Care Act, AKA Obamacare, is being scheduled. Our national debt clock is ticking down like a time bomb. October 17th, for the first time in U.S. History, we may default on our loans. Not a joke. October 17th is when the check to the outstanding accounts that we borrowed from to fund our Federal Reserve comes due to countries like China who President Obama borrowed over a Trillion dollars from.

    Imagine if you will:

    The sequence of events would likely go as follows…

    Within seconds of news that the United States missed a payment, almost simultaneously, the stock market and the U.S. dollar would plummet in value.

    A super-spike in interest rates would follow in short order.

    A gallon of milk would suddenly cost upwards of $100.

    A loaf of bread, $44.

    A gallon of gasoline, upwards of $1,000.

    In a panic to protect their inventories, business owners would shutter their doors, triggering widespread looting and chaos.

    Then, within an hour later, the federal government would issue emergency notification that its disaster map is in effect.

    “The United States of America would look dramatically different,” says renowned global analyst, Karim Rahemtulla, adding that “not every state will survive.”-Town Hall

    Town Hall reports some interesting comments from the Secretary of Treasury, Jack Lew, on this subject.

    “If we have insufficient cash on hand, it would be impossible for the United States of America to meet all of its obligations,” said Treasury Secretary, Jack Lew, on Wednesday.

    What our treasury secretary is hinting at is bigger then anything we could imagine and an almost doomsday scenario for the United States being planned out by President Obama and his administration. How serious is the threat? Well it is serious enough for the NSA, Department of Homeland Security, and the Federal government to put contingency plans in place completely annexing 16 states and redrawing the federal United States Map.

    The Federal Government has put into place contingency plans for if this happens implementing a virtual “government shutdown” of 16 states. Which 16 states? Well that depends on the map, as two are in play. One shuts down the biggest welfare states, the other redraws the map of the Civil War!

    Is your state on the map to be annexed?


    This map shows the biggest TANF, or federal funds to low income families, recipients. This is one of the biggest drains on the government borrowing from the Social Security and Medicare tax income that is received since the 1996 reform. Dark blue indicates the biggest percentage per population that receives these funds.

    According to CNBC and the National Counsel of State Legislatures (NCSL) the top 15 states to be victims of Obama’s government shutdowns to punish the people would be: 15. Oregon, 14. Pennsylvania, 13. Michigan, 12. Rhode Island, 11. Indiana, 10. New Mexico, 9. Washington, 8. Minnesota, 7. New York, 6. District of Colombia (not a state but one of the highest per capita welfare recipients), 5. Vermont, 4. Massachusetts, 3. Tennessee, 2. Maine, 1. California. The 16th state could be a choice from any of the darker blue states from Virginia, Florida, Alaska, etc.

    This could also be drawn up by the 2012 census of Household Median Income which would pretty much redraw some old battle lines and old wounds of our Nation. This list would included from lowest to highest: 16. Mississippi, 15. West Virginia, 14. Arkansas, 13. Kentucky, 12. Alabama, 11. Tennessee, 10. Louisiana, 9. South Carolina, 8. New Mexico, 7. Oklahoma, 6. Idaho, 5. North Carolina, 4. Montana, 3. Florida, 2. Missouri, 1.Ohio.

    Basically the bread basket of America. It would be agriculture verses industry. The rest of the southern states are not far behind on that list. We can record government interference with the farm industry and recent flooding, droughts, and natural occurrences for the gap. The one missing from the list as a major player in industry in the old Confederate States has a plan that makes this even bigger.


    Texas Governor Rick Perry (R) made no secret since 2009 his feelings on if the United States Federal Government and the republic collapsed what his feelings were. It is no secret that Texas is a big battleground state and one of the industry leaders with even a slot in the World Economy.

    This year, the Attorney General of Texas, Gregg Abott, signed a contingency plan that he would help the Texas Nationalist Movement in the event of an economic collapse to restore the Republic of Texas to the full glory of the nation it once was. This has led to some serious debate with constitutional lawyers as if it was even possible since the civil war. But Texas remains one state that is still classified as a “Republic” and is one of the only states that can fly its flag at the same level as the US flag.

    This prompted legislation in Oklahoma from the Oklahoma House and Senate and was signed off on by Governor Mary Fallen (R) to also leave the US in the event of a catastrophe. It seems that Oklahoma would join its sister state in leaving and they are on the list of the 16 states that would be cut if President Obama does this by wealth.

    Louisiana is flirting with the idea and Arkansas as well. Parts of Colorado (considering that they had the first re-call election and replaced legislatures for the first time in history during a term) and New Mexico are also lining up with the idea . Could we see the rise of the Republic of Texas again?

    How credible is the threat? Well there are several things that makes this doomsday scenario possible. Number one, the government already has the contingency plan in place and President Obama signed off on the executive order already.

    We have the truckers shutting down the dollar on October 11-13 to get their attention and demand impeachment. We have the banks threatening to follow suit in retaliation. Instant market flux or maybe market crash.

    The powers that be stand to make money on this, in fact they are routing for it:

    “It’s piling into very specific global markets,” says Karim Rahemtulla, author of the bestselling book, Where in the World Should I Invest?

    “Certain insiders will get rich off of this event. It happens in every crisis dating as far back to the Depression. You just need to know where to put your money,” Rahemtulla adds.

    Next, The Blaze reported while we were writing this article that Speaker John Boehner now states that if President Obama continues to negotiate that we will default on the National Debt. Here is the video that they are talking about:

    It is bad enough to get Speaker Boehner to cuss in another speech directly to the White House of “This Is NOT some damn game”!

    Here is the situation in a nut shell, IF the President comes to the table and negotiates, then we raise the debt ceiling; we risk a credit downgrade again in our US History, the dollar weakens, and we risk another catastrophic market collapse. However, the United States stays intact, and we can possibly end the insanity as of late.

    If that doesn’t happen, then see the doomsday scenario set in place for us all. We have his excuse to declare martial law and rip the United States to pieces.

    Either way, if your Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent, or not affiliated with any party, the final outcome of October 17th, 2013, does not look good. Check Mate.

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  2. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    F**K IT. Shut it down. Fire the FED and the IRS. Jail the Usurper Kenyan Traitor. Pass the fair tax and repeal the 16th amendment. Set term limits. And start a Constitutional review of all Federal Laws, and encourage the States to do the same.
  3. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    What he said.
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  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    The pain will not be uniformly distributed. As you can surmise, the first hurt will be among the entitlement class which will be the squeaky wheel, and will be greased first. As you can also surmise, that will dictate fast action, just not the right direction. When the squeaks stop, it'll be business as usual.
  5. DarkLight

    DarkLight I self identify as a Blackhawk Attack Helicopter! Site Supporter

    That's only if there's grease to begin with. I'm not saying that the above article is spot on but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was more accurate than not and either way, increase or default, things will start to tumble. I can't say I completely disagree with the sentiment that it's orchestrated.
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  6. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Those employed by government need to feel what it is like to be without a job and struggling financially, like soooo many US citizens have been experiencing since the fall of 2008. The economy has yet to fully recover unlike what the media and those in government would like most to believe.

    I would not feel sorry whatsoever for any governmental(federal, state, county or city) workers to lose their job.

    What comes around goes around, nobody or no governmental agency has given me or many of my friends a helping hand still to this day since the fall of 2008.

    I'd like to see those who thought they had a secure career for life on the taxpayers dime struggle for 5 yrs. without any help from anybody other then themselves make it that long and not lose their house or most of their major possessions.

    Game over.
  7. Rabid

    Rabid Monkey

    If he terminates our charter does that mean we are free to set up our own country?
  8. fmhuff

    fmhuff Monkey+++

    Shut it down, tar and feather those responsible, let nothing get in the way until that happens. Fat chance.

    I think we can play a game. It's called "how stupid are our neighbors"? How many times do we need to be fooled, suck it up and get fooled again while hoping something different will happen? Bureaucracy as it's played in America requires no one is responsible in order to operate. If someone were responsible, payed a fine, got fired, went to jail, sit in the electric chair then bureaucracies cloak of irresponsibility would be penetrated and the system would fail under it's own decay.

    I can foresee a possibility of a responsible bureaucracy but then again it would look nothing like the one we have now.
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  9. NWPilgrim

    NWPilgrim Monkey++

    I agree even though I gave extended family that would be impacted. Govt employment has actually increased while private sector has millions who have been out of work for years, been shifted to part-time, and took demotions to stay employed.

    We have to cut this Beast to the bone. Time for govt employees to join reality of "Aint nuff money to keep growing spending!"
  10. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    The sad part of all this is...nothing will change unless it collapses on itself and we clean the slate of all these career politicians, lobbyist and leeches sucking the life blood of this country.

    The .gov employees on furlough right now are going to get-back paid regardless... they are just enjoying an extended vacation. The government taking care of it's own folks first and foremost.
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  11. AmericanRedoubt1776

    AmericanRedoubt1776 American Redoubt: Idaho-Montana-Oregon-Wyoming Site Supporter+

  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Like most controversial topics of the day, the actual seriousness of the events will be downplayed by the corporate media, and in place will repeat patriotic stories about veterans and government employees who are "suffering" without pay or benefits. I like to think it's never quite as bad as the worse case scenario may outline it to be, even if it really is as bad as the worse case scenario outlines it to be...

    We can only speculate at this point, how far this will go. It is a kind of sweet sorrow to see our nation in the death-throes as we follow the "news" and try to keep on with our daily lives. If the POTUS moves on his own, he risks complete alienation, but it is his final term and Americans typically tend to have a short memory for treasonous and unconstitutional acts committed in the name of emergency. What I am getting at, is the very real possibility of radical changes facilitated by the executive, followed by an election and series of events coming soon after to preoccupy the minds of the sheep, making the venture a success no matter what public opinion may be. Now, if the .GOV really does go into default, and the economy slips further, the result could create the need for a solution --another avenue for the elite to benefit. The problem--reaction--solution tactic is still being used effectively. Additionally, the chances of individual states to remove themselves from the Union, and to institute true liberty and freedom once again, albeit a welcomed endeavor, is highly unlikely, but not impossible. And the corporate media will play a heavy role in establishing group think philosophy and instilling overriding thought on a pliable people.

    It's fair to assume only that the powers that be have thought out every possible outcome, and prepared diligently for what is to come. From the House to the Senate, we are seeing more and more rally behind the people and drawing a line in the sand...even if it may be partly theatrics. Nevertheless, I like to believe a few may seize the chance to try and break the shackles and rekindle some fire for liberty and reason.

    The "Obamacare" Affordable Health TAX will either die in Congress, or serve to become another brick in the wall surrounding the three percenters from the power hungry establishment. Interesting times, indeed.
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  13. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Oh this too will be averted.
    My cracked crystal ball says (it's actually a modified magic 8 ball):
    Obamacare will be sustained
    The liberals will rejoice.
    The debt ceiling will be raised
    the CR will be passed
    and the Tea party (along with the republicans) will be crucified at the next election as the media will place the blame solely on them.
    the FED will print money like never before.

    and the vast majority of the citizens of the US will go, meh.
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  14. NWPilgrim

    NWPilgrim Monkey++

    I agree totally, except you left out the Republicans will claim that by pretending to take a stand they actually won a victory, even though they will give Obama everything he wants. Because, ultimately they want the sane thing: to spend ungodly amounts of our money.
  15. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    I wanna play "How stupid are our neighbors?" though I don't think my actual neighbors are stupid. A bit naive but not stupid. And I find it interesting I didn't see Arizona on that list.
  16. bfayer

    bfayer Keeper Of The Faith

    Something most people don't know and the press is not reporting is the back in May the House pass H.R. 807 the Full Faith and Credit Act, which gives the Secretary of the Treasury the legal authority to pay principle and interest on public debt as well as Social Security in the event the debt limit is not extended.

    The bill has been sitting in committee in the Senate since the middle of May.

    There are no conditions in this bill, nothing about Obamacare, nothing about reducing the deficit, nothing about spending. It's a clean bill that gives the administration the authority to pay the bills.

    I know that members of Congress have talked about it, because I have heard them live on CSPAN. Nothing about this bill has ever made it to the main stream media or for that matter cable news.

    All that needs to happen for the president to exceed the debt limit and pay the nations debt legally, is to get the Senate to pass the bill and then sign it. No action from the House is required.

    H.R.807 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): Full Faith and Credit Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    If we exceed the debit limit and the nation goes into default, there are only 2 people to blame, Reid and Obama. The world will never know that however because the media will not tell them.
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