paid to destroy their crops?

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  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

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  2. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    [BSf] Thankyou for posting such a splendid example of a rabid right wing batshit crazy troll video
    Did you actually believe the Tiktokker twaddle B.S featured in the linked YouTube clip???

    Someone really needs to stop tripping out on 3%er Nation content. :rolleyes:

    After scrolling past all of the clickbait, and spam popups...It was a fascinating exercise in examining the febrile rantings of what evidently passes for conspiracy theorist minds...I can't wait for the next exciting thread title ending with ???


    * This refusal to provide financial assistance early in the Covid19 pandemic would have been during the TRump administration's term of office.

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    Further thread topic fact checking links:


    Government isn't paying farmers to destroy crops | king5.com


    No, the government isn’t paying farmers to destroy their crops | AGDAILY



    PolitiFact - No, the U.S. government isn’t telling farmers to destroy their crops


    No, farmers are not being paid to destroy crops as viral videos claim

    Fact Check: Farmers Are NOT Being Told They Must Destroy Their Crops | Lead Stories

    People Can't Get Enough Of This Onion Farmer's TikToks

    Watch the whole TikTok video: https://www.tiktok.com/foryou?_d=secCgYIASAHKAESPgo8sYHsvpjp53IrxLjNBxxx6ADKv78I4zH4o1Vtg0e3gyzTtY6XHz5nup5FBscyKViGm6S4/u2EMyKeJNDfGgA=&checksum=c24d18bb6bce248bc9ae19fbcb79442f36d67c05ed4d6dce4e39188317a4d991&language=en&preview_pb=0&sec_user_id=MS4wLjABAAAAOMQIckGVRtAd-HVGjXLq8w-QZevyrIL7rx-J-n9P78XZ_40a-hLyUlAPpKdDdaU-&share_app_id=1233&share_item_id=6996804151564979461&share_link_id=af59138b-9aaf-497f-9c25-64194bc8d9db&source=h5_m&timestamp=1629919339&u_code=d0h6dck8mbbf1b&user_id=6568943454267932678&utm_campaign=client_share&utm_medium=android&utm_source=copy&_r=1&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=6996804151564979461#/@thepopcornfarmer/video/6996804151564979461

    So there you have it folks....some TikTok Jokers have put together some B.S. videos spreading the kind of ohnoconspiracy theory that apparently appeals to the cognitive biases of some credulous folk on the interwebs who have simply spread it further on.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2021
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  3. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Framers get paid a subsidy to not grow certain items as a type of price support - left over for tn the days of National Socialism - err FDR.

    People cheat = more $$

    Feds use Landsat data and aerial photos to catch these cheaters. If they grow past their 'allotment' the crops have to be plowed under.
    (See https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2017/1034/ofr20171034.pdf)
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2021
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Yeah I've heard of some being paid to not plant.
    Items like corn mostly.
    Don't want to flood the market with cheap corn and ethanol.
     
  5. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    The referenced link explains how Landsat data is used in farming and grazing land production management...I could not find a reference in the document about its punitive use against 'subsidy cheaters'

    And it is naughty of you to take a swipe at poor old FDR for the sins of successive Presidential and Congressional generations, (both Democrat and GOP), who have pork barreled their way from election to election with farm subsidies, relying on influencing rural voters for their re-election chances. It should be recognised that bleeding heart socialist, Ronald Raegan signed off on his own version of 'The Green New Deal', expanding the size of the government teat by signing into law, farm subsidies for agricultural and livestock farming property owners who elected not to use certain 'environmentally sensitive' land for their farm production of crops or livestock. I suspect that the cheating that you may be referring to is of the farmers who have accepted these subsidy payments, but chose to violate the terms of the subsidy agreement by cropping or grazing the subsidised land anyway, therefore 'double dipping'...by degrading the land that they had been paid to conserve, cheating on 'Uncle Sugar', and blood sucking on the poor bloody taxpayer who's ultimately paying for the grift.
    Happy Anniversaries: Conservation Reserve Program Turns 25, 100 Years Since President Reagan’s Birth

    and for some....there has been buyer's regret....Man Who Steered Timber Subsidy Program Calls It His Biggest Regret It just goes to show that when a President endeavours to solve one problem (land degradation / soil erosion or re-election) unexpected consequences (though foreseeable in hindsight) come to producers many years later in the form of a profit limiting market glut. :rolleyes:

    Using Landsat Data to catch CRP subsidy cheaters has little to do with the fear mongering and propaganda broadcast by flaky right wing ultra conservative fringe internet bloggers suggesting that the Biden government is on track to starve the Americans ('Kulaks') out of existence. . The fact sadly is, that many credulous people will be gulled into believing such stories that are no more substantial than a fart in a pickle bottle...or in the words of some TikTokkers who had posted the video clips "It was just a joke". It would seem that the joke is on the OP.
     
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  6. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Hard to say: It is the kind of psyops disinformation that the Russkis are capable of and have a track record in indulging, though I think it more likely that its just home grown domestic right wing nationalists ginning up resistance against their tribal enemies. They have such rich hoax material to work with...better than The Onion in many cases.

    Meanwhile in Australia, the global Covid19 pandemic has seen demand for produce boom for suppliers of supermarkets, and decline for suppliers of the restaurant / hospitality industry. Crops destroyed in Queensland's Scenic Rim as demand for specialist produce plummets

    Yes, there has been much farm produce destruction since the Covid19 global pandemic has unfolded, but such destruction is generally a factor of market supply and demand forces at work, rather than government diktat. If anything government intervention has been to reduce such wastage by utilising USAID and Federal Food Assistance programs Federal Food Assistance Programs | Feeding America
     
  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    If what you read on any obscure site doesn’t pass the smell test do a google on the title and see if other sites are sharing the same story, but not a clone of the original story.. Helps separate the BS from the Psy-Ops…
     
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  8. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Once upon a time, There is a site that showed whom was getting paid to not produce and how much each year.
     
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  9. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    I remember my grandpa was getting an allotment every year to " not " grow Tobacco. It must have followed the land , because my Dad would get that check every year after my grandpa died and my Dad inherited part of the farm .
     
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  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I love how ... if it's on the internet it must be true has taken over peoples minds.
    One does not have to think anymore.
    The more available (dis)information that we as humans are provided. The stupider we have become.

    TPTB must love it that the peasants create their own bullshit information and muddy the info stream.

    Critical thinking is gone.
    We elect representatives that represent society.
    Yep, we are fucked.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2021
  11. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

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  12. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    It is a pity that some don't seem to have the sense of smell to differentiate $hit from lavender....but are happy to share the $hit as though it were lavender. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Nothing new here, lots of farms are being subsidized, partly to keep valuable growing lands fallow should we have need on a strategic level, partly because we have more fallow land then we could possibly consume from it's yearly output! Lots of corn is being planted for it's non food applications, and lots of high yield low impact crops are being messed about with to further shore up the food chain should it ever be needed!

    Looking at the U.S. Land usage, we see a whole lot of wasted resources, (especially water,), and we do not use grazing lands properly/efficiently, further taxing the lands stability and sustainability, trust me, as a part time farmer and rancher, I know how this all works!
    We have been living in high cotton for over 200 years, where we had plenty of land spread out and available to grow or raise animals, and we didn't really tax the water like we are now, and until we get a better handle on how we use our land, this will continue to be an issue!
    In short, we have more farming then we have consuming, and with the combo of just in time supply from farm to table, we have created the perfect storm of supply problems for ourselves! There is a lot that needs to be done to correct all of this, but until we do, the shortages will continue!
     
  14. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    Your sources are just as reliable as the OP.
     
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