Pics of your Firearm SHTF setups

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by knophear, Oct 22, 2008.


  1. knophear

    knophear Monkey++

    Post pics of your guns and gear for [shtf]. Shotguns, rifles, pistols, bb guns, taserstaser1.....you got it, post it. GO!!!
     
  2. tommy20/69

    tommy20/69 Monkey++

    here's some pictures of my weapons i have a few ak'47's and an M4 a mossberg500 and a .270 and a few other carbines . i have cases of ammo for each gun so that gives me a few thousand rounds . i have about 20 mags for the ak's and 15 mags for the M4 . i have aglock17 with 6 mags for it 3 of them are 30+3 mags and my keltec uses the same mags as the glock so thats a plus. i have 6 or 8 cases of MRE's and a duffle bag full of BDU's i have about 10 maybe 12 or more 1lb propane bottles all stored in my closet anolng with 4 stoves . i also have two 55 gallon drums and a 25 gallon drum for fuel for my generator and utv's if needed. i have 4 or five marine deep cycle batteries to run my power inverter for power too. and i also have over 50 pocket knives and buck knives . bowie knives knife sharpeners . i have a k-bar. and a bayonet for my ak47. man the list goes on and on. i try to keep atlest 4 cases of water on hand at all times .i have over 10 flashlights of all different sizes. i have mosquitoe head nets . oh i have a little coleman propane heater ..digital blood pressure meter



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  3. WestPointMAG

    WestPointMAG Monkey++

    Why?
     
  4. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    You sure you want to post those pics so some IP address computer geek wonder for the FBI/DPHS can try and use your IP to track you back to your place of internet access and cross analyze that against all emails coming out of that ip adress....none of which probably have your name or anything on them. Also, I am sure you use a different IP address each time that you access the monkey to keep your location secrue?

    Next they try to blow up all the serial numbers on those guns and then analyze the fauna to determine your general region?

    I suggest the only place you post your retreat pics is in your retreat.

    Knophear only has 4 posts so far. How do you know he isn't a lurking ATF/DHS agent?

    DO NOT POST PICTURES OF YOUR SHIT UNLESS YOU WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE PICTURES OF YOUR SHIT TO TRACK YOU DOWN IN THE EVENT YOU ARE DETERMINE AN UNDESIRABLE.
     
  5. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    Tommy -- my guess is you live in Florida/texas. its 4/12/2008 and there is plenty of sunshine, doesn't look like the trees are budding (so definitely not nothern city) and there is a palm tree in the back ground. You probably live more northern than southern florida or SC/GA coast?

    None of the coats hanging in the closet are heavy enought of winter. Also, I can see you shop at CVS by the prescription labels that are facing the camera. Wonder if I can blow them up to see a name on them?

    It appears that you are catholic.

    I realize I don't know my fauna, but that ain't kentuckey bluegrass for sure!
     
  6. RightHand

    RightHand Pioneer in a New World Moderator Founding Member

    And I thought I was the only nut paranoid enough to think posting pictures was a dangerous idea. I should have known that the company I keep is as cautious as I am.
     
  7. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    By now, Google has cached this page. I wonder if the .gov google system has done the same?
     
  8. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    google and the .gov have probably cached this page by now through their webcrawlers.
     
  9. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    Move along now, there is nothing to see here
     
  10. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    ghrit, quit lurking this thread. Post your SHTF stash pics now!
     
  11. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    I have a pet elephant as part of my SHTF planning. Very capable for work around the farm and it can make some really big land mines for protection against wayward walkers which also doubles as fertilizer.

    Perhaps I crapped on this thread enough. Sorry.[gone]
    shit_happens.
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Har. It is all here already, just dig it out --:lol: [taser1]

    But your point is well taken. No reason to make it easy for the Department of Homeland Stupidity (or MZBs) to find your stash.
     
  13. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    anybody else want me to analyze their stash? Post your pics now. I won't be back until tonight, but I will surely go my best to see "Where in the world is Waldo?"
     
  14. knophear

    knophear Monkey++

    "Knophear only has 4 posts so far. How do you know he isn't a lurking ATF/DHS agent?"

    Dude, I am no agent of any sort, I am just a newb in emergency preparedness. We all here have had our first posts. Sorry if I endangered anyone. No one has to post if they dont want to...I was just looking for some insight on preps. I dont like the ATF any more than you do and I am not 'anti-government'. Heck no I didnt like what happened at Ruby Ridge or Waco, our government crossed WAAAAYYYYYYY over the line there. The ATF tries to keep people safe more than they should sometimes. Juist to clear it up, I have no clue on God's green earth how I could prove this to you but you can take it or leave it. Like I said, I wasnt trying to endanger anyone and sorry if I did.
    -Knophear
     
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Knophear, no worries about you any more than any other new member. Clyde was making a point about posting information that could be misused. For that matter, old timers are also suspect to the extent that paranoia allows. Dot gov is patient and has lots of time and money to spend rooting out us evil preppers; what easier way than to read on forums like this?
     
  16. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    no...
     
  17. tommy20/69

    tommy20/69 Monkey++

    yea i'm southern but not florida or texas. and as for as ip address. thats a laugh. big brother don't mess with them little things . they already know what you got and where.as for as atf all shit shit is legal so gome and bring it on atf.lol.you'll be buying me a new door.
     
  18. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I think this smacks of being written by somebody wanting attention(some home made psuedo spook) , but its interesting nonetheless.#4 shows we aren't the first to be paranoid and postulate "information collection"...

    http://forum.911movement.org/ar/t4979.htm

    COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

    There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

    Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

    If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

    Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

    A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

    Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

    Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

    Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

    Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

    Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

    Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

    Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

    It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.

    CONCLUSION

    Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
     
  19. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

     
  20. RightHand

    RightHand Pioneer in a New World Moderator Founding Member

    You'd be surprised by the amount of private information I was able to find on you by just searching your username and IP. Suggest you alter your name for various sites.

    BTW, Louisiana is my guess - Cajun country. LOL
     
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