Salesforce Rat bastards Use their software and you cant sell guns.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...gs-software-gun-fight/?utm_term=.ab0a06a3d188


SAN FRANCISCO — On its website, Salesforce.com touts retailer Camping World as a leading customer of its business software, highlighting its use of products to help sales staff move product. A Camping World executive is even quoted calling Salesforce’s software “magic.”

But behind the scenes in recent weeks, the Silicon Valley tech giant has delivered a different message to gun-selling retailers such as Camping World: Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software.

The pressure Salesforce is exerting on those retailers — barring them from using its technology to market products, manage customer service operations and fulfill orders — puts them in a difficult position. Camping World, for example, spends more than $1 million a year on Salesforce’s e-commerce software, according to one analyst estimate. Switching to another provider now could cost the company double that to migrate data, reconfigure systems and retrain employees.

The change in Salesforce’s acceptable-use policy shows how a technology giant that is mostly unknown to the public is trying to influence what retailers in America sell and alter the dynamics of a charged social issue. While Salesforce is hardly a household name, it is a dominant provider of software and services that help businesses manage their customers. With roughly 40,000 employees and a market value of nearly $120 billion, it has become a behemoth in San Francisco. Its branded skyscraper also towers over the city as the tallest building and a major landmark.

But its decision to force its position on guns on retailers did not sit well with some industry advocates. These types of rules are “corporate-policy virtue signaling” and discriminate against gun owners, whose rights are protected by the Second Amendment, said Mark Oliva, public affairs director of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a firearms trade group.

“It is a very chilling effect when a company as large as Salesforce puts out a policy like this,” Oliva said. “A policy like this is not surprising from a company based in that part of the country.”

Salesforce’s new policy bars customers that sell a range of firearms — including automatic and semiautomatic — from using its e-commerce technology. The policy also precludes customers from selling some firearm parts, such as “magazines capable of accepting more than 10 rounds” and “multi-burst trigger devices.”

The change affects “a small number of existing customers when their current contracts expire,” as well as all new customers, Salesforce spokeswoman Gina Sheibley said. She declined to name specific customers, but Camping World’s Gander Outdoor unit sells a variety of semiautomatic firearms and high-capacity magazines. Camping World executives didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment.

Gun sales have become a political flash point for retailers in the aftermath of shootings such as the one this month in Colorado. This year, Dick’s Sporting Goods said it would pull guns and ammunition off the shelves of 125 of its 720 stores, a move that the company acknowledged in a March securities filing led to “an accelerated decline” in its hunting business. Walmart ended the sales of military-style firearms in 2015, and last year it raised the minimum age for purchasing firearms and ammunition from 18 to 21.

[Dick’s Sporting Goods pulls guns from shelves. Are firearms still sporting goods?]

Even companies that have no gun-related business are taking a stand. Levi Strauss & Co. pledged more than $1 million in September to support nonprofits and youth activists working to end gun violence. Two months later, Toms Shoes pledged $5 million to similar organizations.

When tech giants enter the broader debate, the consequences are magnified because of the critical services they provide behind the scenes to customers. Consumers often don’t realize they’re interacting with other companies when they place an item in their shopping cart or chat with a customer service representative. But Salesforce and other big tech companies wield significant influence because of that reliance on their software.

This type of activism has also led to criticism of tech companies overstepping their bounds. Facebook, Google and Twitter have all faced increased scrutiny of censorship of what they deem hate speech or dangerous individuals. Web-security provider Cloudflare faced criticism in 2017 that it denied free-speech rights after pulling its protection from a neo-Nazi website involved in organizing the white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville.

[Opinion: Where to draw the line on hate speech online?]

Salesforce’s new policy could prove controversial in conservative states, said Stifel Nicolaus analyst Tom Roderick, who provided the estimates of Camping World’s spending on the company’s e-commerce software. “Does this become a hot-button issue in states where people like their assault rifles?” Roderick said.

It’s not Salesforce’s first experience with social activism. The company also provides technology that helps power the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency’s border activities and agent recruiting, something that drew increasing scrutiny as the agency implemented Trump administration policies that included separating families at the U.S.-Mexico border. Last summer, roughly 650 Salesforce employees signed a letter to co-chief executive Marc Benioff raising concerns about the agency’s use of its products, first reported by Bloomberg News.

The company hired an executive in December to run its new Office of Ethical and Humane Use to guide development and sales of its products. It’s unclear whether the new executive helped develop the firearm policy.

Benioff has been among the most outspoken CEOs regarding social and political issues, including a tweet last year a day after the mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., left 17 people dead.

“The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America. Ban it,” he wrote.





A month later, he pledged $1 million to March for Our Lives, a group pushing for gun-control legislation.

At the 2018 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Benioff suggested social media companies such as Facebook should be regulated like Big Tobacco because of their similarly addictive natures.

He also publicly campaigned against a controversial Indiana law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, in 2015, arguing it could lead to discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Salesforce, which had 1,400 employees in Indianapolis at the time, threatened to “dramatically reduce” the company’s investments in the state, before the legislature eventually amended the law.

[This tech CEO is taking a real stand against Indiana’s ‘religious freedom’ law]

Benioff declined to comment on the company’s new policy regarding gun sales.

Salesforce isn’t the only provider of e-commerce software to take a stand on gun sales. Shopify, which powers over 800,000 online shopping sites, also amended its acceptable-use policy last year to bar customers from using its technology to sell weapons such as automatic and semiautomatic firearms.

 

One of the largest “Prime Vendors” think Walmart or the us Gov/MIL ADS, that resell everything uses Saleforce. I wonder if they will be next. I have worked directly with them in this business ADS, Inc. Equipment, Procurement, Logistics, and Supply Chain Solutions

 

something that drew increasing scrutiny as the agency implemented Trump administration policies that included separating families at the U.S.-Mexico border.
Really? Sounds like a bit of well placed propaganda to me?

 

They are waaaaay out of their lane; however, I doubt it will have a serious affect on me obtaining a firearm. I am just thinking out loud here but I also doubt that companies that use their software will like the fact that they can be manipulated, controlled by these yo-yo's and will take their business elsewhere.

 

Just another part of the agenda...

 

Businesses should keep Dick's, not so sporting, decline in revenues in mind. Businesses seek us out with goods we, MAY, purchase from them. If they make poor business decision, based on external coercion, then they should suffer the loss of all gun owners business.

There are businesses that are unrelated with the firearms industry, yet, has stated a position that is contrary our constitutional and or natural rights according to natures law, that has suffered some loss of revenue from the firearms community.

Don't buy their crap!

 

Actually I see some serious lawsuits in their future when they try and control the economic activiy of their customers who have paid them for their product before they started putting these made up rules on it. Since they are giving the .gov issues about their behavior too I don’t see this ending well for salesforce. That will be funny when the .gov his them with penalties and they loose billions in the class action lawsuit.

 

I agree - way out of their lane.....maybe a loss of a few billion in sales will set them straight. I know the article mentioned the high cost of switching services, but I can see a lot of businesses saying 'screw it' and going elsewhere. Or some enterprising company might just make the same product (or better) and run these guys out of business........

 

let/s hope that's the case!

 

In a way, I'm happy to see that a company will stand behind its principles, even if misguided. The market place will teach the lesson.