Should American Patriots Abandon Trump Over His Handling of The Epstein Files?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by stg58, Jul 31, 2025.


  1. stg58

    stg58 "take my advice, don't listen to me" Founding Member

  2. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

  3. CraftyMofo

    CraftyMofo Monkey+++

    I think if people are bent out of shape and this is their most important issue, go ahead and be outraged. Personally, it doesn’t make my top 5.

    I would like to see the people who took children’s innocence be held accountable.
     
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  4. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I agree with KMB and CrafyMofo. Frankly, I think anyone with a bit of sense knows that any real evidence is long gone by now after 6 years. Sad but true. So, we should abandon the first real president we have had in our lifetime for what? So, we can play right into the hands of the leftists, commie scum who call themselves Democrats? No thanks. We've been down that road for the past 4-years and it wasn't pretty. So, yeah, it is not even in my top 5 list either.

    I would like to see much, MUCH harsher laws for pedophiles, especially those involving younger children. Personally, I do not think castration is too harsh. As far as victims 14-years and up, I would not only charge the pedophiles but the parents of these children also. Where in the hell were they? In the Epstein case, 16-year-olds were flying to islands and around the states. Where were the parents? Did they allow this? Did they approve of this?
     
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  5. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    If there was anything there that would make Trump look bad the dems would have released it years ago. I heard an analyst on the radio talking about it and he made a lot of sense. There are dozens of accounts of people who flew in his plane or even visited his island but that doesn't constitute or prove any criminal intent. RFK jr accepted a trip on his plane along with his daughter to an event they were both attending somewhere out west, I don't recall. But it was totally innocent. How many people would have their reputations slandered by just an association with the perv? Look at how many people were friends and assosiates of Bill Cosby or Weinstien or any other of these creeps that were oblivious to thier true nature. Some turned a blind eye or even may have been an enabler. If there is evidence of criminal acts then bury the bastards. But to release thousands of pages and transcripts of documents that only name names, with no evidence of wrongdoing or even knowledge of it, that wouldn't be a good thing. It wouldn't be fair to people who honestly didn't know what a creep the guy was. As for the grand jury transcripts, only a judge can order them unsealed. To protect the sanctity of the grand jury process that very rarely ever happens. Trump has no authority over that.
     
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  6. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    takes a dumbass TDS liberal or DNCer not to see the reasoning >>> more embedded Obammy corruption involved in the files - obvious - What hasn't the Darkside corrupted and used to their advantage when it comes to their sabotage & destruction of the Country ......

    ALL THE EXPERTS say there's definitely a well laid trap for Trump involved in the so-called Epstein List/Files >>> they have the push on - using their dumbazz lackies and the MSM to push the agenda -.....

    sorry to the dumbazz lackies >>> TRUMP IS TOOOOOOOOOOO INTELLIGENT - try saving your Gods On Earth - Obammy & The Clintons are on their way to Gitmo - maybe New Alcatraz
     
  7. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    IMO Trump will release what can be released. All released documents will have some portions redacted to protect victims and other innocent parties, same with any ongoing court cases and anything a Judge seals (and we certainly know by this point that we can't trust judges to be neutral), etc..

    Whatever Lolita Express flight logs that haven't been released need to be released and none of them should be redacted. Passengers who went to little St John (Epstein) Island flew into St Thomas and then completed the destination by boat. They will also need to connect those passengers to the boat portion. All flight log data released should include the destination.

    The videos need to be analyzed and any actions involving minors or non consenting adults need to be prosecuted and names named. This may take longer than the rest of Trump's term, since it appears that nobody has yet to follow up on them!
     
  8. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    If this is the biggest axe you have to grind, then you are NOT a patriot!
     
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  9. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Trump is not on list. The head of the FBI had to have had it and he would have leaked it. When you are charged with sexual misconduct by a person who doesn't remember what year it was and and they couldn't prove that he had ever been in the store where she said the attack occurred, who was charged with felony payment to a stripper even though it wasn't a crime and fined hundreds of millions for fraud when both the accountants for Trump and the bank agreed that there was no difference in that transaction and hundreds of others that they had been involved. When you apply for a loan you do not use the real estate tax valuation as a basis, and the bank said that they had their own accountants look into it and made the loan and made money.

    If they could of even created the slightest doubt in peoples mind that Trump was involved with Epstein, it would have been the lead off in all the mass media for months. So far they have had to create a crime to get him to court unlike Hillery, Obama, and Biden who have so far escaped from all charges.
     
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  10. 4x4

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  11. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    kinda funny this post was made same day jello posted,,,,, sure am glad its not possible for one person to have several memberships. just coincidence im sure.
    anyone else get a red prohibited banner as they posted today?
     
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  12. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    It's a valid question and depending on your social network and news feed you are hearing different things. I grew up with a bunch of left wing socialist DEI worshiping wackos that never truly came out of the adolescent stage. My social media is overloaded with people who think it's obvious fact that Trump is pure evil and incessantly repeat whatever they heard as fact. Dare ask a question or refuse to confirm you are part of the hivemind and you are a racist fascist NAZI extremest.

    To many people if they don't like you then you are assumed to be evil. Trump rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and worse he doesn't promise them everything they ever wanted on a silver platter. People choose their news and "facts" based on what they want to hear which reinforces their ignorance. This is why they are so frequently mystified when they hear something different than what they hear in the echo chamber they chose.

    I don't like everything Trump is doing or in some cases like the goal but dislike how he's doing it. Most Americans don't realized how privileged we are and the consequences of what happens when the pecking order of nations change and we are no longer on top. Many of the things Trump is doing is is to prevent that from happening. A lot of what is happening is difficult but no where near the consequences of not doing them.
     
  13. sasquatch91

    sasquatch91 Monkey+++

    Even if he does, and he is not on them (i dont believe he is) the left will say "oh he changed it amd took his name off" its a lose lose either way.
     
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  14. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    I think a lot of the people that DEMAND that the Epstein List be released are just a bunch of guys with a hankering for some young stuff themselves and want to live vicariously. They haven't got the balls or the means to go for the neighborhood girls and are terrified of the teen-age/run-a-way/addict/street whores with every STD known to man and a scary pimp to boot. Next, they will DEMAND the release of any and all photos and videos.
     
  15. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    NPR and the mass media use their bully pulpit to forever ask the question "When did you stop beating your Wife?". No matter what you answer, the only thing that will stick in many peoples mind is that you are avoiding the question. When someone like Robin Williams makes 18 million a year on ABC, he has a very strong incentive to learn how to "stack the deck" and give the viewer of his program the impression he wishes to push rather than the truth. I have a friend who is a flaming liberal, sane other than that, who loudly proclaims that she could not vote for Trump for President as he was a convicted felon. Law fare does work in many peoples minds and that is why the democrats keep using it. The Epstein list has become the latest tool in the TDS toolkit to ask the question that has no answer as those seeking to destroy Trump will leave only the question in the minds of their selected Trump hating audience.
     
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  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Moot point. Trump is in office for another 3 years whether folks like it or not. (y)
     
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  17. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Chello and StG58 are DEFINITELY not the same person.
     
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  18. stg58

    stg58 "take my advice, don't listen to me" Founding Member

    It appears he has on the shit list of the regime Melbo left behind for some time, I guess he spoke too many inconvenient things so he had to be silenced. Bow down and Praise King Donald or incur the wrath of the mods.

    This board has been in a downward spiral for quite a while with long time members bailing with few new members, I wonder how long it will even exist.
     
  19. kissmybrass

    kissmybrass brass monkey Site Supporter+++

    iv been wrong before.
     
  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    In 4 days we will hit our 20 year anniversary. I don't think we're going anywhere.
     
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