The Batteriser (extends the life of "dead" batteries)

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by CATO, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    If the claims are true, it might be worth it to have at least four of these in your supplies.
    How to make your ‘dead’ batteries last 8 times longer | Q13 FOX News

    When you throw out your disposable AAs because your remote stopped working, they actually still had about 80% of their power remaining.

    A new $2.50 battery sleeve called the Batteriser, coming to Amazon this fall, promises to extend the life of your batteries up to eight times longer by drawing out their remaining power — which you were about to throw in the garbage. The tiny, 0.1 millimeter-thick stainless steel Batteriser sleeve features an incredibly small circuit board, built to tap into the battery’s remaining energy.

    AA batteries start off with 1.5 volts of energy, but the voltage goes down as the batteries are used up. Once the batteries dip below 1.35 volts, they appear to be dead, even though they still have a lot of juice left.

    It’s akin to a tube of toothpaste, according to Batteriser founder Bob Roohparvar, who is a computer science professor at California State University.

    “If you just squeeze from the top, you’re only going to get so much out of the tube,” Roohparvar said.

    For example, a typical AA battery will stop working after 240 minutes of use powering a remote control, 95 minutes powering portable speakers, or just 38 minutes powering an RC toy. Roohparvar claims that the Batteriser can get 1,185 minutes out of a remote (5 times more energy), 570 minutes out of portable speakers (6x) or 355 minutes out of an RC toy (9x).

    Batteriser can continue to deliver a 1.5 volt charge from batteries that have actually discharged down to 0.6 volts.

    Roohparvar says he hopes to shake up the $14 billion disposable battery market. There are 5.4 billion battery-operated devices in the wild, and 15 billion disposable batteries are bought every year around the world. A typical U.S. home has 28 battery-operated devices inside.

    The Batteriser will come in AA, AAA, C and D-cell varieties and sell for less than $10 for a pack of four. At that price, Roohparvar, the technology “pays for itself” after just one purchase — a typical AA battery costs $2.50, and the Batteriser makes one battery last as long as eight.

    He said it’s a cheaper solution than rechargeable batteries. And those rechargeable batteries are typically made of lithium, which isn’t compatible with many battery-powered products.

    “The Batteriser is giving you lithium performance at alkaline price,” Roohparvar said.

    After an Indiegogo campaign in July for early-adopters, Roohparvar says the Batteriser will begin selling on Amazon in the fall. He also said that he has been talking to executives at Wal-Mart about selling the battery sleeves in the future.

    Though Roohparvar says that his patents would prevent the battery manufacturers from simply adding the Batteriser technology into their batteries, he said he would be open to licensing the technology down the road. He also said that Batteriser could one day partner with a Duracell or an Energizer and sell the batteries and Batterisers as a single package.
  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I'd like to see the science behind this....
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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Me, too. Given the crowd funding aspects, I'll hold off until it goes into production and gets wrung out in the market place. There is a theoretical (well, not so theoretical since it's used in radio) means to boost DC voltage, but there are some practical aspects not yet addressed publicly.
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  4. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++

    There is some merit to the idea though the claim to get 5 times the life seems highly exaggerated. Not sure what he can/has patented either as there are devices including LED flashlights such as many Fenix models that do this already. I guess packaging the boost voltage circuit on a sleeve that adds minimally to the battery dimensions would be the most probable unique aspect, as the concept of boosting the voltage to maintain device functionality as the cell voltage declines has been around for decades.

    Oh yeah... Who pays $2.50 each for AA alkaline batteries? I don't see them that high even in convienence stores and that number isn't close to "typical."

  5. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    If I had to "guess" I would guess that his technology consists of an Integral DC/DC converter that takes any Input voltage, even .6Vdc and outputs a Constant, and Regulated, 1.5Vdc to the Output Terminals.... This would suck the Last Amps from the Battery, right down to DEAD, and still keep a constant Output Voltage, until the Battery was totally DEAD.....
  6. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I'll have to look up and read on a DC/DC Converter...

    OK, got it.. They're using field effect transistors (FET) in switch mode conversion to ramp the voltage or, a chip based switching converter. Makes sense now.
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2015
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  7. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    My point in posting and recommending possibly having these: in a TEOTWAWKI situation, there will be no more batteries made in our lifetimes. So, squeezing every essential drop out of what's left might be the difference that gets you out of a sticky situation. If dead batteries aren't really dead, people will bypass them.

    For all the naysayers . . . I stated "if the claims are true."

    This site has become so negative on everything unless you're one of the anointed, I think I'll just keep things to myself.
  8. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    @CATO while I hear what you are saying on the negativity, I think the point wasn't who would pay $2.50 per device but the assertion that the actual AA batteries cost that much each. Typical advertising and making your item look better than it is possibly.

    As for the likelihood of it working, I agree that I would want to see it working. I, however, think I might throw into the Kickstart. Because if it does work I'd like to get in on it early and help get it going/funded.

    I can't build it myself for less in a package that small so I'd reward it.
  9. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++

    Sorry, wasn't trying to be a naysayer nor debate your comments or reasons for posting that info. I concur post TEOTWAWKI getting the most from batteries might be good. I was more responding to the article's noted quest for money and the PR referencing IP and technical benefits that maybe aren't the most credible. Investors beware was all.
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  10. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    This is a smart use of technology, to my way of thinking, IF this is what their device is doing.... I have used this type of technology to supply Remote Power for Network Repeaters over 3000' of Ethernet Wire... I can buy DC/DC Converters, off the shelf that have a 3-32 Vdc Input, and either 5Vdc, or 12Vdc Regulated Output for the Remoted Device. I put a 30Vdc Source on the Dry Pairs in the Ethernet Cable, and the converter makes the correct regulated DC Voltage, out of whatever Dc voltage that comes out of the Far End of the wire, after the Wire Resistance Loss of Voltage. Works very well, for me....
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  11. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Sorry...wasn't directed at you...should've said that. You're probably a fella I'd have a beer with.
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  12. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I like the idea, as well. I also like knowing I can make wet cell batteries if needed. That tech has been around for centuries.
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