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The Cruz speech.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Matteo10572, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Matteo10572

    Matteo10572 Monkey+

  2. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Don't really care for his ramblings... I don't feel that he really has a chance... YMMV
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  3. Matteo10572

    Matteo10572 Monkey+

    Just for clarification, Does that mean you watched the speech and didn't like it or did not watch it and deem it a waste of time?
  4. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I watched...or should I say, endured the whole speech.

    Preaching to the converted, at a receptive venue, with a tame audience....very impressive! Yes he rolled out pretty much all of the usual tropes to be expected of US presidential hopefuls: god, patriotism, god, guns, flag waving, and lots and lots of imagining of things and promises that he would have his supporters believe that would come true, just, if only they just support his nomination for Prez...oh, and he mentions god's blessings a lot. What he fails to articulate, is how he intends to turn those imagined things into reality. I would be very interested in hearing his master plan for abolishing the IRS, and letting us know what mechanisms he would put in place to collect the revenue that would keep the electoral pork barrels continuing to roll.

    A fascinating speech from a presidential hopeful who, hopefully will be as successful as Sarah Palin was in her jousts for a billet in the White House.

    It seems that Ted Cruz is unable to follow his own advice....

    Here’s what we know about the faith of Sen. Cruz, who’s set to announce his … – Washington Post

    all I can say to Ted Cruz is.....Mathew 6:1
  5. ditch witch

    ditch witch resident bacon hoarder Site Supporter+

    One of my best friends is a big mucky muck for one of our state reps. She said they were at some function in Austin and Cruz was there and she asked her boss what he thought of the guy. He said, well he's an a-hole but at least he's OUR a-hole.
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  6. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    Ted Cruz on the Issues

    Really what you need to know is here. On the issues is a nn biased repot on where they stand on Issues. Unless he favors getting us out of the N.A.F.T.A, G.A.T.T. and other trade deals he is a no vote for me. So far Ben Carson will do what needs to be done.
  7. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Cruz doesn't make me want to run out and vote just yet. But Carson lost me with the statement about us country hicks can have semi-autos but yall city slickers get to do without them. He doesn't (or does) understand the 2nd amendment. If he can't(or won't) get that one right he would just be more of the same wishy washy pols on the rest of the constitution. We can and must do better. jmo
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  8. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    I don't Believe Carson would do anything to hurt the second amendment. But making that statement will hurt his chances of getting elected. Carson is the only one running beside Gary Johnson who would get us out of the trade deals that have crippled our industrial base.
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  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    1. Voting doesn't even work in the first place. Third Party hopefuls actually have no hope of winning.
    2. The elections are rigged, the Electoral College is a sick joke.
    3. Why even trust any of the candidates in the first place? It's not like any of them has EVER told the truth.
    4. The Bilderberg / CFR puppet is going to win every time.
    5. Lots of Americans vote for these creeps because they like being on a "winning team", as though elections were a sporting event. Very few actually understand the actual crisis we are in, fewer still are willing to take a stand.
    6. The last time we voted for a patriotic candidate (Ron Paul), the IRS secretly began a campaign to audit, harrass and levy those who supported him.

    Ultimately, I firmly believe we should campaign against Slavery, Inc. by supporting the candidate who has the most patriotic voting record (i.e. votes against bigger government) and promises to rid us of the illegal and privately owned IRS corporation, as well as its partner in crime, the privately owned Federal Reserve. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. I don't care what religion he supports. I don't care if he's a veteran or a damn yuppie. I don't care if he supports gay marriage or abortion or alien abductions. Nothing else matters except this: We need to all side the same, make our voice count as ONE, and send a message to Washington. We need them to know, we are DONE playing THEIR GAME, and we will NO LONGER support tyranny. We stand on our OWN. We must stand together or not at all. Yes, the "victory" will go to the Ivy League graduate who suckles on the teet of the banking cartels -no matter who votes or how the voting turns out. It always ends with the Bilderberg puppet winning, anyway. Don't you realize this yet? If voting actually WORKED, we would have had an actual American as President a long time ago.

    We must use this "voting" as a chance to send a message. That message is, WE WILL NOT BOW DOWN TO TYRANTS!
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  10. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Man oh man....I'd vote for Carson, whatever his stance on the 2nd ammendment. He is one Republican brainiac who impresses me greatly! He is the Neurosurgeon who is missing quite a few neurones of his own. Carson is the dude who argues that Homosexuality is a choice....on the basis that a lot of heterosexuals go into the penal system...and come out homosexual. Go figure??

  11. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    I listened to his comments but figured he spent too much time on his religious conversion and platitudes and not enough on what really needs to be discussed... his whole imagine speech reminds me of Obama's change speeches... most of what he preaches would cause an up roar and major voter shift to Billary... something that I'm not willing to risk. I'm looking for a social moderate and fiscal conservative that won't gut the constitution... but then again thats what makes a horse race... that and a couple of horses @ss's...

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  12. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

    I would be interested to see how the lib's would try to tear down Ben Carson with him being black. That would cause them much grief in the sense that they could not play that race card crap.....
  13. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Oh....watching the spectacle wasn't a waste of time...(even though it might have been academic as far as I am concerned) just that I've seen it and heard that kind of political eyewash before in lead ups to other presidential races for the top place on the nation's political greasy pole. Nothing in essence has changed. Cruz is showing that he has mastered the art of conservative political poodle faking Urban Dictionary: poodlefaking , He presses all of the conservative hot buttons, right down to the pink clad females, demonstrating his "family values" cred.

    WD, I agree with your observations wholeheartedly.

    Cruze's imagine speech, rests on the unwarranted assumption that the audience has much imagination at all. His speech is bereft of policy and intent, concerning what he would actually do if elected prez, and how he would achieve it.


    As far as I can see, he is selling the same kind of balderdash, as the con merchants that sold the Emperor when they convinced him to imagine how majestic he would look in the new clothes that they would make for him (at some cost).
  14. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    Okay Chellovec who is the best candidate and why. And I dont give a damn about gays, gay marriage, blacks and whites. Abortion and other non issues that are getting in the way of repairing the job loss in this country. Carson is the only Republican running who says he will tariff the Chinese. GLOBALISM , THE FEDERAL RESERVE, AND THOSE WHO HOLD THEM UP ARE MY ENEMY.

    Broker, I'm with you man. I voted for Paul . He was really the last hope in my opinion. Im looking at Gary Johnson again. But we all know it will be Clinton and Bush . I'm about ready to start the war now and get it over with.
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I don't know what to say anymore, to be honest. It's gotten to the point where the elections are OPENLY rigged, as we PROVED last time with Ron Paul, and the majority of America just DERPED and forgot all about it. And the IRS? Oh, wait until they start collecting on those who don't have or can't afford health insurance. Now, the police are pretty much assassinating civilians on sight, like it's a damn war zone with open rules of engagement, kill on sight any threat. They are all working with FEDS now, will all probably be federalized, and then its too late to stop because everything will be a federal crime and they can initiate anti-terror campaigns against the public. Any resistance will become domestic terror. Folks just don't see where this is all going, and that's too bad.

    It's SO MUCH TYRANNY at once, I just don't understand how so many people can be so completely retarded.

    I'm not even mad anymore. I am in absolute shock at the level of psychological conditioning and complete idiocy going on. I am not in the mood to even fight for these people. I say, burn it all down. Let them come. I am sick of it all.
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  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    So many candidates...and so much rhetoric...I'll have another look at the Republican racing form guide and get back to you.

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  17. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    And on the the other side ONE OF the most corrupt women on the planet. Lying ,stealing, Murdering, her way through life.

    Just a quick refresher course Lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of The Clintons. 1- James McDougal - Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. 2 - Mary Mahoney- A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. 3 - Vince Foster - Former White House Councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. (He was about to testify against Hillary related to the records she refused to turn over to congress) 4 - Ron Brown- Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide. 5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992. 6 - Paul Tulley- Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock ,September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor". 7 - Ed Willey- Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day His wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. 8 - Jerry Parks- Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly Threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house. 9 - James Bunch- Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited Prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas 10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.. 11 - Kathy Ferguson -Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones Lawsuit, Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. 12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancée. 13 - Gandy Baugh- Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. 14 - Florence Martin- Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot Wounds. 15 - Suzanne Coleman- Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died Of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a Suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. 16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9,1992. She died in a one car accident. 17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation. 18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mean Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in His Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. 19 - Jon Parnell Walker- Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal. 20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. 21 - Charles Meissner- Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. 22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and Brother. 23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident. 24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr.- Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole. 25 - Stanley Huggins- Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released. 26 - Hershel Friday- Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded. 27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry-Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: 28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88. 29 - Keith McMaskle- Died, stabbe d 113 times, Nov 1988 30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. 31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. 32 - James Milan- Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes"? 33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. 34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989. THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD. ALL DIED OF MYSTERIOUS CAUSES OR SUICIDE 36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J . Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Bret Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons! HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? SURELY YOU JEST!!.
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  18. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I am making no case for Hillary...there are plenty of folks here who would make the contra case against her without any of my help. ;)
  19. CATO

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  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Republican Racing form. Roflmao. Good one @chello. Can't wait to he as r this one ;) you do know we are almost halfway around the track?
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