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The Revolution Marches On

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Minuteman, Mar 18, 2008.

  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Ron Paul wins here where it counts
    GOP hopeful takes county convention despite defeats in primary, caucus

    It appears that solid strategy and a well-organized grassroots campaign put Ron Paul on top at the Whatcom County Republican Party convention this weekend.
    While there are no hard figures yet, county GOP Chairman Chet Dow said it appears that Paul received the majority of delegates who will be sent to the summer state convention in Spokane. From there, delegates will be selected for the national convention.
    How did that happen when Paul had neither the most delegates from the county caucuses nor the primary in February?
    "One word: organization," Dow said.
    There were several factors, Dow said.
    One was that people who had pledged to represent another candidate during the caucuses didn’t all show up to the county convention, changing the mix.
    Then, at the county convention, people didn’t vote for a candidate, they voted for the delegate to send to the convention. Dow said some people seeking to be a delegate didn’t state their candidate preference, although most did.
    The Paul campaign appears to have created a strong voting bloc, Dow said.
    Other strategies that also paid off:
    The convention went so long — 9 a.m. to after 11 p.m. Saturday — that Paul supporters dug in their heels, and when others began going home, they stayed and maintained a strong presence.
    The 40th District caucus at the convention was small, and the Paul supporters were able to elect people supporting their delegate to all six delegate positions from that area.
    Dow said he was pleased with how the convention turned out, and he was impressed with the Paul supporters.
    "They’re happy. They should be happy," he said. "They should be proud of what they have accomplished."

    Ron Paul backers succeed in guerilla takeover of some GOP caucuses


    The result: Paul's supporters predict they have snagged roughly a third of the 2,137 state Republican delegates. Those delegates will determine the state GOP platform this spring and help select the presidential delegates to the national Republican presidential convention in Minneapolis in September.

    The unorthodox push, which sparked shouting matches in some meetings, reflected Paul's campaign — an anti-establishment, grass-roots movement built on passion.

    "This is a movement for change in the long term," said Ruth Carlson, a 24-year-old secretary from St. John who helped organize Saturday's push in the St. Louis area.

    At many of Saturday's caucuses, the Paul contingents also won approval for some of their man's key positions, including resolutions for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, and against the federal Patriot Act and warrantless wiretaps.

    But the most politically explosive resolution called for repealing the Missouri Republican Party requirement that all of the state's 58 GOP presidential delegates back the victor in the Feb. 5 primary: U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., now the presumptive presidential nominee.

    In Missouri's presidential contest, Paul obtained less than 5 percent of the statewide Republican vote.

    Missouri leaders of Saturday's pro-Paul effort insist that they're not driven by a quest to resurrect his chances for the White House.

    Carlson and other Paul supporters say their aim is to force the Missouri Republican Party to embrace Paul's principles.

    "We're not holding out an illusion that Ron is going to win the nomination," said Debbie Hopper, Paul's national field director. "This is about calling the Republican Party back to its roots."

    Hopper — who lives in Fenton and was herself elected a delegate Saturday at a caucus in St. Louis County — cited other caucus successes by pro-Paul supporters in other states, including Nevada, Colorado and Washington.

    But Missouri Republican officials plan to fight back. State Republican Party Executive Director Jared Craighead said party leaders will be examining the lists of caucus-goers, and of the newly elected state delegates. He contends that some of the Paul activists involved in the caucuses were really Democrats or Libertarians who should be tossed off.

    However, St. Louis city Republican Chairwoman Judy Zakibe joined Bennett in asserting that some of the blame lies with Republican elected officials and party activists who stayed home Saturday.

    "Our people didn't come out," Zakibe said. "That's what cost us."

    But Bennett accused the Paul forces of deception. At the St. Charles County caucus, Paul backers did not identify themselves as such. Instead they promoted a group of proposed delegates they called the Conservative Values slate.

    "They went out of their way not to use 'Ron Paul,'" Bennett said. "Intellectually they were dishonest about their reasons."

    Still, Bennett had to appreciate their success: "I'll hand them kudos for being activists. I'll hand them kudos for being organized."

    Brent Stafford, a computer analyst from O'Fallon who headed the pro-Paul forces in St. Charles County, gave credit to his side's stealth preparations, which included mock caucuses.

    Whatever happens, organizer Carlson said Saturday's victories should prove that Republican Party leaders can't ignore Ron Paul, his views or his supporters.

    She added with a chuckle: "We're not just a bunch of people on the Internet. We show up."
  2. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    To date, he has 800,000 folowers. you can still write him in. Florida and Michigan should go independent and vote for him.
  3. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Ron Paul backers 'hijack' delegates


    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width=624 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center>Paul Campaigns At U. Pittsburgh
    CBS News
    Fri, 04 Apr 2008 4:18 PM PDT
    Rep. Ron Paul, the Republican presidential candidate from Texas who runs his campaign based on a platform of libertarian "revolution," greeted a full auditorium of student and community supporters at the University of Pittsburgh's Bellefield Hall Thursday night.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=624 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center>Candidate Paul vows to keep fighting despite the odds
    The Indiana Gazette
    Fri, 04 Apr 2008 1:06 PM PDT
    Even though he knows the numbers, polls and odds are not in his favor, Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul is not ready to call it quits in his quest for the Republican nomination.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=624 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center>Paul rallies faithful at IUP
    Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
    Thu, 03 Apr 2008 9:12 PM PDT
    Ron Paul, the Green Tree native who moved to Texas 40 years ago, enjoyed a strong reception in an appearance at Indiana University of Pa.

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=624 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=center>Ron Paul supporters take control of Republican caucus
    St. Charles Journal
    Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:05 PM PDT
    St. Charles County's Republican caucus at St. Peters City Hall was anything but typical this year.

  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    And the beat goes on. This morning, the MSM gave a nod to Dr. Paul on the Chris Mathews Show by acknowledging that Ron's campaign is still alive in the grass roots. 'T'ain't over 'till it's over.
  5. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    Last I saw:
    Idaho 71% reporting

    Paul 21,753 24%
    McCain 64,963 70%
    Uncommitted 5,634 6%
  6. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Writin' him in don't care who objects...
  7. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    I would like to see him win, except I havnt seen him or anyone draw a crowd like this one....we are doomed.
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Not drawing crowds emphasizes the conservative aspects of gun owners and survival mindedness. Most will not willingly advertise that there are stores or guns in the house, and expose themselves to neighborhood paranoia or burglary. There is yet hope of support that is not worn on Ts and hats or advertised in letters to the editor, or signs in the yard. Those crowds represent (to me) enthusiasm that may, and more often than not is, emotional rather than based in reality or proper thought. A manifestation of mass hysteria only.

  9. MicroBalrog

    MicroBalrog Monkey+++

    The question is not whether RP can be elected. At this stage the chance is low - BUT! BUT! BUT! - if the RP activists stay in the party, they can affect major change in the long term.
  10. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    TPTB still trying to silence Ron Paul and his message

    State Republicans Announce Date to Finish Convention, Local Man says Too Late

    Five weeks ago, the state Republican convention suddenly came to an end after organizers realized more supporters of Ron Paul than John McCain would be going to the National Convention in Minneapolis this September.

    Now the Chair of the Washoe County Republican Party and a local Republican are at odds.

    Basically, the state party and Dr. Wayne Terhune disagree about how and when the convention should wrap up.
    Terhune says it should be done as soon as possible and the party is content to wait until the deadline.

    April 26th at The Peppermill was the first time the state party tried to get its business done it one day, says Washoe County Republican Party Chair, Heidi Smith.

    In a Wednesday evening teleconference, the Nevada Republican Party set July 26 as the date for delegates to reconvene in Reno at the Peppermill and complete the state convention that fell apart in April when national convention delegates couldn't be elected in the time allotted.

    Party leaders blamed a rule change pushed by supporters of presidential candidate Ron Paul, who represented a large proportion of the more than 1,300 convention delegates.

    A Court Victory for Republicans in Texas

    Wednesday afternoon in Harris County Texas, Judge Tom Sullivan issued a temporary restraining order to a group of Republican delegates and party officials seeking to force the state Republican convention to comply with Texas election law and elect officers for the convention before conducting other convention business. A further hearing on the case will be held on Monday, June 9 to discuss charges of irregularities at various county conventions. The State Republican Convention is scheduled to start in Houston on the 12th.

    The Credentials Committee appointed by these temporary officers has been meeting in advance of the convention and is considering a move to challenge and potentially disqualify the entire delegations from Nueces, Parker, and Galveston counties where Ron Paul supporters had won delegate seats far out of proportion to his showing in the primary voting. They will be meeting again next week to decide if these delegates should be disqualified.

    Ron Paul Has Strong Showing in Final Primaries
    Thursday June 5, 2:13 pm ET

    ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Presidential candidate Ron Paul received a total of over 45,000 votes in the final three Republican presidential primaries on June 3. Dr. Paul’s strongest showing was in Montana, where he garnered 22 percent of the vote, followed by 17 percent in South Dakota and 14 percent in New Mexico respectively.

    "Dr. Paul’s grassroots supporters across the country are doing a tremendous job spreading our message, winning votes, and laying a strong foundation for the future," said campaign spokesman Jesse Benton.
    To date, Dr. Paul has received well over one million votes in Republican presidential contests.

    Our elections and our economy have been compromised

    In light of the coming elections, I believe that there are some things people should know and act upon according to their own minds.

    The first; being that Congressman Ron Paul has not dropped out of the campaign, it’s just that the Republicans and Democrats do not want his name mentioned anywhere.

    The second; the last congressional election in Florida’s 13th District saw the loss of 18,000 votes due to un-explained "glitches" in the counting process. In the Michigan primary, scores of voters attempting to vote for Ron Paul found their electronic voting machine would not register a vote for Paul, and they were told never mind, return later and try again.

    Eventually, it was disclosed that hundreds of devices were programmed not to register a vote for Paul to be counted. Diebold machines are easy to hack in only minutes, the book "Hacking Democracy" demonstrated that it can be done in 10 minutes. In New Hampshire, Paul got no votes in one town, and it turns out, upon complaint, he got 31 votes. Another town found 25 Paul votes. Thirty seven New Hampshire towns had Diebold machines and a re-count is still not to be done. The state wanted $55,000 for the recount and it was paid but still not done.

    The third; presidential debates are another fixed farce. Three each, Republican and Democrats, sit on the Presidential Debate Commission. Their only job is to see it that no third party candidate gets near any forum. In 2000, Boston police prevented Ralph Nader from entering the stadium simply as a spectator. In 2004, the Libertarian and Constitution party candidates were arrested by St. Louis police and held until the debate was over. Didn’t read about that now did you?

    The financiers of this comedic circus are all multi-national corporations. Seeking favors and beneficial legislation by influencing national elections. This stuff began primarily with Carter and by Clinton, virtually all regulation of the banking industry had been removed. That ushered in the great era of greed and Alan Greenspan. He worked hard for the power elites, constructing and economic catastrophe starting with the devaluation of our dollar by 87 percent over his 18-year term. The continuous interest rate cutting resulted in the dot com and real estate bubble, then Bush compounded the dollar decline by another 21.7 percent.

    In 27 years, those pariahs have brought us to the economic collapse we have now. Not only are our elections compromised, but our entire economy too.

    With the coming elections near, all must be patriots. Guard your vote as precious. Do your homework with regard to the real ideals of your candidate, not just what they spew daily. Watch the polls, poll workers and voting methods. Demand all candidates be heard, not just the Democrats and Republicans. There’s not a penny’s worth of difference between them. Do not be afraid to vote for a third party. Don’t just vote for what you see as a lesser of two evils, but vote for your real honest convictions. We all say we want to have voted for the "winner," but would you follow that "winner" off a cliff if he said march?
  11. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    It would be a good thing for the write in campaign to get off the ground right about now. That McCain will get the nod seems a foregone conclusion. The problem is that write ins could split the vote and result in a donkey victory in November. McCain is the lesser evil, for sure, but an order of magnitude better than Obama (and two orders better than the hildebeast.) A real quandary.
  12. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    The focus has changed but the Revolution continues.

    Friday, June 13, 2008

    Over the past 17 months you and I delivered a message of freedom, the likes of which American politics has not seen in decades. With the primary season now over, the presidential campaign has come to an end. But the Revolution has only begun.

    Today I am happy to announce the official launch of the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty. Please visit our new website and join us: http://www.campaignforliberty.com

    Over the next few months I will be developing a program, assembling a team, and announcing new and exciting projects. We will have a permanent presence on the American political landscape. That I promise you.

    Right now, I need your patience and support. I want the Campaign for Liberty to be a grassroots campaign; so your energy, your creativity, your feedback, and your participation are essential.

    Together, we will educate our fellow Americans in freedom, sound money, non-interventionism, and free markets. We will write commentaries and broadcast videos on the news of the day. And I'll work with friends whom I respect to design materials for homeschoolers.

    Politically, we will expand the great work of our precinct leader program. We will make our presence felt at every level of government. We will keep an eye on Congress, and lobby against legislation that threatens us. And we will identify and support candidates who champion our great ideas.

    "In the final analysis," I wrote in my new book The Revolution: A Manifesto, "the last line of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves. If the people want to be free, if they want to lift themselves out from underneath a state apparatus that threatens their liberties, squanders their resources on needless wars, destroys the value of their dollar, and spews forth endless propaganda about how indispensable it is and how lost we would all be without it, there is no force that can stop them."

    Our time has come to act on these words.

    May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the establishment, and saved their country.

    For liberty,

    Ron Paul

    P.S. Please join me. Go to our website, www.campaignforliberty.com, and become a member of the Campaign for Liberty. Our goal is 100,000 members by September. Can we reach it?

    <TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=10 width=624 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Dear Supporter,

    These past 17 months have been among the most exciting and eventful of my life. Together you and I delivered a message of freedom the likes of which American politics had not seen in decades. I wasn’t sure the country was ready for it. But it was a message, I discovered, that many Americans had been waiting for a long time to hear.

    I have been blessed with the most informed, well read, and enthusiastic supporters of any presidential campaign. Your extraordinary efforts in organizing and fundraising grabbed the attention of millions of Americans and shocked just about everyone in politics and the media. I still cannot get over all the fantastic work you did.

    Something of great significance has just occurred in our country’s history.

    With the primary season now over, the presidential campaign is at an end. But the larger campaign for freedom is just getting started. Therefore, I am happy to announce the official launch of the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty.

    The work of the Campaign for Liberty will take many forms. We will educate our fellow Americans in freedom, sound money, non-interventionism, and free markets. We’ll have our own commentaries and videos on the news of the day. I’ll work with friends I respect to design materials for homeschoolers.

    Politically, we’ll expand the great work of our precinct leader program. We’ll make our presence felt at every level of government, where just a few people with our level of enthusiasm can make a world of difference. We’ll keep an eye on Congress and lobby against legislation that threatens us. We’ll identify and support political candidates who champion our great ideas against the empty suits the party establishments offer the public.

    We will be a permanent presence on the American political landscape. That I promise you. We’re not about to let all this good work die. To the contrary, with your help we’re going to make it grow – by leaps and bounds.

    This is the most ambitious venture of my political career, and I think it can achieve great things. But I can’t do this alone. I need you to help me. I need your energy, your creativity, your ideas, and your dedication.

    People frustrated with our political system often wonder what they can do. I have founded this organization to answer that question, to give people the opportunity to do something that really makes a difference in the fight for freedom. Please join me by becoming a member of the Campaign for Liberty. Our goal is 100,000 members by September. Can we reach it?

    Our campaign netted 1.1 million votes in the primaries of a shrinking Republican Party. Millions more support us. I need you to help me reach them – and to keep making new converts to the cause. What a force we can be, if only we rise to the occasion.

    Now what about the Republican Convention in St. Paul? Our delegates will attend, of course, and I expect our contingent to have a visible presence there. Without disruption, we will do whatever we can to influence the party and its platform, and return the GOP to its limited-government roots. This is very important.

    This brings me to my second announcement. I invite you to join us at Williams Arena at the University of Minnesota on Tuesday, September 2nd, for a grand rally. We intend to draw over 11,000 people. We’ll have live music and entertainment, and special guests. I’ll address you all as well. A massive rally will generate still more interest in our ideas. And what a great time it will be.

    Remember that it was Senator Robert Taft, who shared our views, who was called Mr. Republican. But we are not merely the Republican Party’s past. If the enthusiasm of young people for our campaign is any indication, we are also its future.

    Right now I will need your patience and input as we develop our program and assemble just the right team of individuals. But it is my intention to launch the Campaign for Liberty in its full capacity at our rally in Minneapolis this September.

    Over the past week we’ve learned that the Democratic presidential nominee, supposedly an antiwar candidate, is committed to the same rhetoric, the same propaganda, and the same aggressive intentions toward Iran as the Bush administration. As usual, the major parties refuse to offer Americans a real choice.

    The Campaign for Liberty will lay the groundwork for a different America, the kind of America you and I, and millions of our fellow countrymen, want to inhabit.

    "Dr. Paul cured my apathy," a popular campaign sign read. Others said our campaign cured their cynicism. We have now reached a moment of great moral decision: will we let ourselves retreat into apathy and cynicism once again, or will we dig in for the long haul and fight all the harder? Will we retire from the scene quietly, or will we give the establishment the fight of its life?

    "In the final analysis," I wrote in my new book The Revolution: A Manifesto, "the last line of defense in support of freedom and the Constitution consists of the people themselves. If the people want to be free, if they want to lift themselves out from underneath a state apparatus that threatens their liberties, squanders their resources on needless wars, destroys the value of their dollar, and spews forth endless propaganda about how indispensable it is and how lost we would all be without it, there is no force that can stop them."
    The time has come to act on these words. May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in a moment of great crisis, stood up to the politicians, the opinion-molders, and the establishment, and saved their country.
    Join us, and be a part of it.

    For liberty,

    FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=Ron Paul | Signature"

  13. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Ron Paul Won't Be President
    But He Just May Change the GOP Forever! ​
    Republican candidate Ron Paul won't be elected president in November, but his campaign is sparking an incredible movement of libertarian conservatives in the Republican Party.
    Newsmax explores the question: Will Paul's campaign, like Barry Goldwater's a half century before, change the GOP?

    Paul has become the first successful campaign of the Internet age — as his "open source" online network has raised tens of millions — outstripping the other Republican candidates and even Hillary Clinton's latest tallies.

    Adding to the Web magic is the fact that the Texas congressman has been arguing old conservative themes: small government, limited taxation, and reduced intervention abroad.
    It's a libertarian message that resonates with millions of Americans.

    Newsmax magazine's special report, "Paul Won't Be President, But ..." offers an in-depth look at the Paul campaign, which raked in $20 million in contributions in the last quarter of 2007, surpassing even Hillary Clinton's fourth quarter total.

    This exclusive Newsmax report explores:
    <DIR><DIR>Why young voters are ignoring Obama and flocking to Paul's campaign
    How conservatives' dissatisfaction fuels Paul's run
    The Ron Paul interview — he doesn't mince words
    Why Paul could be the next Goldwater
    Why some conservatives fear Paul's isolationism could harm America
    How Paul's Net-savvy campaign is exploiting the online world
    Libertarians and conservatives — where do they differ?
    The Internet wizard who has mushroomed Paul's campaign
    Why Paul would abolish the Dept. of Education
    Why Paul calls 9/11 a "failure of government"
    Paul's "white blimp" campaigning
    What energizes Paul's powerful base
    Why GOP activist Grover Norquist applauds Paul's campaign
    How Paul's less-than-fortunate upbringing shaped his character
    Paul's surprising support from military members
    The two primal forces in campaigns: money and votes
    Libertarian stars — Clint Eastwood, Drew Cary, and other surprises
    Why Dick Morris calls Paul a "total fraud"
    Paul's lasting impact on the Republican Party
    How Paul could be the "Republican Ralph Nader"
    Why other candidates are emulating Paul's methods
    Libertarians through the ages
    How Paul could eventually decide the general election
    And much more
  14. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member


    Is it coincidental he has the same initials as Ross Perot [aiw]
  15. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    This is an opinion piece so take it for what it's worth.


    posted June 15, 2008

    Late last month during a meeting of the Tri-Lateral Commission, the topic of discussion was Dr. Ron Paul. While the presidential election wasn’t on the official agenda, several members of the commission voiced concerns over the message of liberty being delivered by Dr. Paul and the fact that so many young people were becoming political active. They agreed that Dr. Paul should stop spreading this message and resign his candidacy immediately - Thomas Foley was entrusted to handle the “Paul situation.” One can only speculate on how he accomplished this feat because (as some of you may know) Dr. Paul did indeed drop out earlier this week.
    The biggest questions I have are for the voters here in America - the common men and women who refused to take any initiative and research the candidates indepth. Many either voted for the mainstream media’s choice or even worse sat on the sidelines and didn’t vote at all. While Carl Cameron and FoxNews were framing and filtering the candidates for us, did anyone bother to check under the hood or kick the tires before blindly following the herd towards Huck, Mitt, Hill or Obama? If he were alive today, Edward Bernays would pin a medal on Rupert Murdoch, who managed to focus your attention away from McCain’s “Bomb Iran” ditty and away from his burka jokes. They convinced you that McCain’s plan for “50 years of war, if necessary” would be peachy and Huck’s relationship to Dick Haas (head of the CFR) was less important than that of his other buddy Chuck (Norris) and Jesus. They conned you into believing that Obama’s brand of Socialism was somehow more palatable than his counterpart, The Rose of Mena (Arkansas). Most haven’t read Brzezinski’s “Grand Chess Board”, nor do they realize how tight he and Obama are (nor what he represents). His book (written in 1997) laid out plans to invade seven nations…we’ve been to two of them already and Iran is next up on his list.
  16. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    Man I heard today that Ross Perot was making a come back. What a ticket that would make. You know we did hear that sucking sound like he said and it goes on today.
  17. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    The Pualites are changing the shape of things.


    Idaho Republican Convention

    Norm Semanko ousted Kirk Sullivan to become the new Idaho Republican chairman as social conservatives, libertarian-leaning Ron Paul supporters and closed primary advocates overcame party establishment efforts to keep their boss in power.

    And this:

    Ron Paul's Compelling Manifesto

    2008-06-16 | In his historic campaign for president, Ron Paul again and again held up the Constitution as a benchmark to judge the policies of the American government. For this, some libertarians criticized him. Was Paul not guilty of "constitution worship"? What has a document that began as an effort to replace the Articles of Confederation with a more effective and powerful central government to do with libertarianism? Indeed, some of his most severe critics claimed, Ron Paul did not qualify as a libertarian at all.

    In The Revolution: A Manifesto, Ron Paul responds magnificently to this false and irresponsible charge. He is well aware of the limited value of the Constitution: it is a far from ideal arrangement. Nevertheless, it remains the fundamental law of the United States and, if interpreted correctly, provides an excellent means to check the depredations of a government that violates its provisions. MORE by David Gordon http://mises.org/story/3004

    Please see:

    The Revolution: A Manifesto. By Ron Paul.
    Grand Central Publishing, 2008. Xi + 173 pages.

    I ordered this and am eagerly awaiting it's delivery so I can read it. I'll post a review when I finish it.
  18. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    The lesser of 2 evils is still evil. Thats like one person saying that they will taz you with 50,000 volts and the other saying that they will only taz you with 48,000 volts. taser1 The 48,000 volts would be less, so it must be better right. [booze]

  19. CBMS

    CBMS Looking for a safe place

    Did I hear correctly that Dr. RP was going to gun for the VP?
    Also, Interesting that Osama and Hildabeast are traveling together for their party. Can anyone say joint ticket?
  20. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Why is the MSM biased against Ron paul?

    TIME for Socialism
    Daily Article by Thomas J. DiLorenzo | Posted on 6/23/2008

    Anyone who is still wondering why the so-called "mainstream media" was so hostile toward Congressman Ron Paul's campaign for the Republican presidential nomination will find an answer in the June 2 issue of Time magazine. Congressman Paul is a deeply educated student of economics, among other things, and an unabashed advocate of economic freedom and limited constitutional government; Time magazine is staffed by socialist ideologues who display little or no evidence of ever having studied economics at all.
    The second paragraph of "How the Next President Should Fix the U.S. Economy," by one Justin Fox, explains the real problem as Time sees it: Americans enjoy too much economic freedom. The natural solution, therefore, is to strip them of their freedom with higher taxes, more regulations, and greater regimentation of their lives. The cause of all of today's economic problems, says Time, is of course Ronald Reagan, who supposedly cut taxes, went about "slashing regulation," and preached "the gospel that individual Americans were better suited to make economic decisions than bureaucrats in Washington were." Where on earth did Americans ever get such a crazy idea?

    Read the rest of the story here:
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