Was World War II worth fighting?

WWII was absolutely "worth fighting"! A really stupid question. Korea was worth fighting. Vietnam..... debatable. Desert Storm..... yes. Afganistan.... debatable, but I lean towards "no".

 

I don't know, isolate the Americas and let the Germans and the Japanese have the rest, Somewhere in Central Asia the two empires would meet and fight it out to decide which was superior.  However, so much of what we take for granted in the modern world was derived from advances made because of WW2. The world would be a very different place. On the plus side we would live in a world without the USSR/Warsaw Pack, China/CCP, Jewish-Arab Wars, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, United Nations, European Union. etc..
Maybe things turned out for the best after all.

 

Um, yeah. There would likely be no USA after Hitler developed nuclear weapons. Any doubts he would have used them?

 

Had America sat out WWII, it's a good bet the Nazis would have built nukes, and the aircraft & missiles to carry them. Great Britain would have fallen. Soviet Russia would have ultimately fallen. Many of our military advances wouldn't have happened, we would be much less able to defend ourselves when a United Nazi Europe came across the Atlantic. Japan would own the Pacific, and eventually threaten our west coast, using more advanced weapons built from Nazi designs. Eventually, the Nazi West and the Nippon East would clash, likely with nuclear weapons. Not a world I'd want to be born into.

 

"the rape of nanking"
the Japanese absolutely deserved to get nuked. 300,000 civilians murdered,in two months, how many babys can i catch on my bayonet,,,, how many women can i kill with one bullet. they did shit that would make the most blood thirsty killer blush.
if you have never heard of it, please look it up.
uh yeah ww2 was necessary. the Germans are only half the equation.

 

They had no plan or capacity to enrich uranium.
They barely had a plan to breed plutonium, they had heavy water but hadn't figured out how to achieve criticality or accumulated enough uranium to reach criticality using the haphazard keep adding more till something happens reactor they appeared to be in the process of brain storming.
They didn't appear to know that plutonium weapons had to be imploded to work properly and consistently.
They didn't appear to know they would need a trigger.
They hadn't appeared to have figured out how to breed weapons grade plutonium or that there was any difference between reactor grade and weapons grade.

 

They had some pretty good rocketry though. Helped to get us a lead in development of ICBMs, and got us into space.

 

True enough. Without Wernher von Braun and his colleagues being brought to the US during Operation Paperclip, the US would not have gotten to the Moon when it did. The Saturn rockets developed by Dr. von Braun's team at Redstone Arsenal were direct descendants of the A4 (V-2) rocket. But the Apollo program and the race to the Moon to beat the USSR was another battle in the Cold War. Now had Germany defeated the Soviet Union, there would be no Cold War, among a lot of other things. It's possible a Cold War between Germany and the US may have happened, but who knows when it comes to alternate history.

 

It was worth fighting my only complaint is we should not have armed the Russians and let Hitler take them out. We could have won without the Russians and the Cold War and and Putin would not have happened

 

Yes, I believe it was worth fighting. Why? The brutality of the Nazi and Tojo occupations for one and the results of them winning - I mean - they would have been so much stronger in the future as a result of their conquests. The question of Europe has always come up since Stalin was, at least, as horrible as Hitler, in some regards worse. However, thinking long-term, Germany was much more efficient and certainly more effective, a bigger threat. Hell, the Soviets couldn't even build nor man their own factories and imported thousands of Americans in the 1920s. Stalin killed those Americans off later but...

Germany would have been amazingly strong especially if he had the resources from the soviet conquests, maybe as strong or stronger than sleepy America, certainly the power of Eurasia.

So, teaming with the Soviets, using their manpower to eliminate the main threat, an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend,' did make sense. They simply had to survive until their manpower could be utilized and their factories could start producing.

It did sort of backfire though, didn't it, when Stalin decided to keep all those countries, but I suppose you could say the Allies traded East Europe for the West Europe. The BIG question has always been could the Soviet Union done it on their own if the UK and France didn't declare war after Poland? I think not. Maybe but I'm doubtful. Those early years saw the Soviet carried by Lend-Lease from the UK and USA carried them through until they got their factories moved and producing. Without that second front even in the beginning... I think it was very doubtful.

EDIT: Sort of slanderous they didn't declare war on the Soviets also, right, as they invaded Poland 2 weeks after Germany did. That's a question that is never talked about in History class. BTW I used to live in Magstadt, Germany and went to the town where Germany was doing their nuclear research, think it was Haigerloch, not far away. They were years behind the USA; however, their research would have been far more advanced, acerated, without that second front and the third front (strategic bombing) if the UK, France and USA hadn't entered the war.

 

we didn't join anything - both theaters of war was thrust on the US >>> Japan attacked the US and the US had no real other option but to go to war - Hitler then made a fateful bad decision to actually live up to the Axis Pact and declared war on the US .....

deciding today - a generation or three later - whether WW2 was worth fighting isn't anything possible - don't even have the right to debate the thinking of our forefathers that made the decision .....

 

While great Britton was slow to grow in technology Germany was frantic at exploring greater weaponry. This is worth the concern for the rest of the world seeing they were bent on world domination. A very great concern for the US to get in with both feet.

 

As for the decadence of a country Germany was the hypocrite.
Germany had perverts of all sorts and brothels and naked women dancers. I had an antique LOOK magazine sharing Nazi entertainment.

 

Was World War II worth fighting?

... ask the French..

 

"Hitler then made a fateful bad decision to actually live up to the Axis Pact and declared war on the US..."
Sort of... The US Navy were constantly firing at the U-boats. Remember FDR agreed to escort the supply ships across the pond. Hitler gave specific orders not to fire on the US Navy for fear of dragging the US into the war but FDR apparently either wasn't concerned or was hoping for some crisis and allow them to drive the U-boats away. In Hitlers own words, "We are already at war with the US..." which was true because one way or another FDR would have got us into it...then "Germany first' agreement left a lot of Americans stunned after Pearl Harbor. My grandmother hated FDR, thought he was a 'dyed-in-wool commie' and if you really wanted to pull her chain just get her talking how he took her gold (in 1932, I think?) then reverse himself later, made a nice profit...she was angry about that until her dying days.

"...deciding today - a generation or three later - whether WW2 was worth fighting isn't anything possible"
Totally agree. How would we react when the entire world was going up in flames around us...

 

OMG, yes! Berlin was a cesspool! Take the biggest red light districts in the world and combine them and you would get Berlin in the 1930s. Every pervert's dream was to go there. Old Gobbels' was tasked with cleaning it up after Hitler came to power, if I remember correctly.

 

WW-II started the day the Treaty of Versailles was signed!
Germany was in ruins, and those documents guaranteed they would remain a puppet state of Great Britain and the U.S.
The Jewish banks came in and took over all financials, you couldn't get a loan or rebuild with out the Jewish state holding terms over you. Fast forward to the first of the disarmament treaties, the London Naval Treaty and Germany was basically left with out a functional military, and worse, the Washington Naval Treaty, not only kept the British Boot on Germanys' throat, but Both Naval treaties seriously hamstrung the United States, Again, Britain understood that the U.S had the technology and capacity to out build any power on earth, and should War return, Britain wanted control, Not some upstart nation like the U.S!
Germany had no choice, it was suffering under crushing restrictions, and it's only chance was to reclaim it's ancient land holdings, the Old Prussian Empire, and be able to use it to rebuild and prosper, but more importantly, to slip the leash of the Jewish state and it's strangle hold on finances!
Germany also saw Russia as the biggest threat, if Germany could take and hold Russian military production, that would keep the rest of Europe and the U.S. out of the war, Hitlers ONLY mistake was not striking into Russia as early as he should have! His biggest mistake was then fighting a war on two fronts!

The U.S had no choice, War meant breaking the strangle hold that the Naval Treaties held over us, it allowed us to rebuild quickly and to position ourselves in such a manor that nobody could ever threaten us again!

Japan was also left hanging in the wind with those Naval Treaties, they would never be allowed parity with anyone, something they could not allow or afford, at the same time, they were blocked from expanding their territories into other nations, which cut them off from much needed resources, something that drove them to war, and the U.S. was the biggest kid on the block holding them from expanding, war was inevitable!

ALL of this was designed by Britain, the Treaties were all written by the Former Owners of the East India Trading Company and it's holdings, this was ALL a great big power grab to ensure British rule and dominion of it's territories, and to remove any competition, especially in the far east, which put both the U.S and Japan squarely in their cross hairs!

 

Agreed, the way the Allies treated an already broken Germany after WWI was deplorable. Rather than help Germany rebuild and make a friend of them, the Allies came down hard, promoting the deep distrust and hatred of many Germans. It made it ripe for the development of the various 'veterans' organizations that came together and morphed into the Nazi Regime.
And when Germany defeated France in 1940, Hitler executed a masterstroke in forcing them to sign their surrender in the same railroad car that the French used at the end of WWI for Germany's surrender. Then he burned it.
Fortunately the victorious Allies didn't make the same mistake post-WWII. They helped Germany and Japan, bringing both into a more prosperous world.

 

Sources? Besides a very propagandized old LOOK magazine you once owned.
Yes, there were brothels that German soldiers were allowed to go to. And soldiers from every other army in the war. Is that not better than raping the local women that the Soviet and Allied armies did at the end of the war? Look up the Stuttgart train station rape, done by mostly negro American troops in 1945.
What perverts are you referring to? There are perverts everywhere, not just NS Germany in WW2. It sounds more like you are describing the depravity that went on in Weimar Germany, not Germany from 1933-45.
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