What if barry pardons bill and hill?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by stg58, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    If the wicked witch is elected POTUS barry could as one his last acts pardon Billy & Hilly and co-conspirators ala Bill's Marc Rich pardon on his last day.
    In fact she could pardon herself and Bill...

    Other than the hue and cry there is not a damn thing that could be done in the courts,

    barry hates everything that made America great and hates Trump with a passion and would love to give America the finger on his way out.
    Yes, the president has the power to issue pardons before an offender has been charged with a crime. That precedent was established when the Supreme Court ruled in 1866 that a presidential pardon "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."

    Pardon me: The Hillary scandals are just getting started
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2016
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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I feel sure this is exactly what will happen. It saves her the big problem of pardoning herself which btw she could do but will cost her in the history books, won't look good: crooked president pardon's self. And, it doesn't cost Obama anything plus it will probably get him a favor in return.
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  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    seems to me that Bastard Barry Hussien Soroto Obama himself is in jeopardy of being uncovered as the phony he actually is if and when Trump is elected President, if both houses of congress stay republican. Trump should pare down government, and pull back the curtain of mystery on the upper levels of government power. Obviously the GOP PTB do not support Trump (all of this seems like a flashback to Reagan ... that washed up movie star, being elected president). I am just hoping the evil witch is defeated and then we will see what happens.
  4. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    What was it that O'bummer said?

  5. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Court of the people....maybe.... there is always a Barrett .50 that can solve that riddle.
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  6. GOG

    GOG Free American Monkey Site Supporter

    Rope, tree, politician. Some assembly required.
  7. fmhuff

    fmhuff Monkey+++

    Per the OP's question, they have to be convicted first. A pardon is not the same as "not guilty". Besides, Obama might just want to be thinking about his own back sides if this treason goes all the way to the top. Just connect the dots.

    Mostly I pray that corruption is revealed all around and justice is served. Just let the cats loose to clear the rats from the building.
  8. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey+++

    then barry should share the same tree limb with bill and hillary for treason
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  9. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    IIRC didn't they used to use a firing squad for treason?
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  10. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    What do you mean whatif? These deals have already been made no matter the outcome. You can't send a woman with dementia to jail.
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  11. BlueDuck

    BlueDuck Monkey+++

    About par. And it goes a lot deeper then just Obama.
  12. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Agreed, it's not what if or even when, it's going to happen.
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  13. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    You mean when it's going to be made public? cuz it's a done deal =)
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  14. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Still would be interesting if Hillary's presidential library was the first one located in a Federal Penitentiary...
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  15. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

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  16. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Bill and Hill have 100s of FBI files that contain the dirt on everyone in DC. If she goes down, she's going to ensure she'll have company.

    Presidential pardon = confirmation that named party is, in fact, a crook....
  17. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    That's only for us old timers. The new ethic is if you don't get caught or didn't do time you didn't do anything wrong. Glad I won't live forever and have to watch it get worse.
  18. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The pardon just got a LOT more complicated. I've been sitting on a story for a couple of days because the sources haven't been attributed, but today is now breaking on Breitbart. I'm on a smartphone right now and not smart enough to copy and paste links, but you will find it as a lead item there.

    The email on the Weiner laptop implicates Hillary in a great deal of wrongdoing. Much like pay to play is old hat, but among the new information is that Hillary made several trips to "Lolita Island" and there are implications of child sex. If true, Obama may not be able the pardon Hillary and/or Bill without destroying the Democratic Party.

    There is a lot more information as well including the justice department attempting the strong arm the nypd into suppressing the information.

    This, as they say, is yuge...
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  19. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The article referenced in my post above:
    Erik Prince: NYPD Ready to Make Arrests in Anthony Weiner Case

    Blackwater founder and former Navy SEAL Erik Prince told Breitbart News Daily on SiriusXM that according to one of his “well-placed sources” in the New York Police Department, “The NYPD wanted to do a press conference announcing the warrants and the additional arrests they were making” in the Anthony Weiner investigation, but received “huge pushback” from the Justice Department.

    Prince began by saying he had no problem believing reports that the FBI was highly confident multiple foreign agencies hacked Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

    “I mean, it’s not like the foreign intelligence agencies leave a thank-you note after they’ve hacked and stolen your data,” Prince said to SiriusXM host Alex Marlow.

    Prince claimed he had insider knowledge of the investigation that could help explain why FBI Director James Comey had to announce he was reopening the investigation into Clinton’s email server last week.

    “Because of Weinergate and the sexting scandal, the NYPD started investigating it. Through a subpoena, through a warrant, they searched his laptop, and sure enough, found those 650,000 emails. They found way more stuff than just more information pertaining to the inappropriate sexting the guy was doing,” Prince claimed.

    “They found State Department emails. They found a lot of other really damning criminal information, including money laundering, including the fact that Hillary went to this sex island with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton went there more than 20 times. Hillary Clinton went there at least six times,” he said.

    “The amount of garbage that they found in these emails, of criminal activity by Hillary, by her immediate circle, and even by other Democratic members of Congress was so disgusting they gave it to the FBI, and they said, ‘We’re going to go public with this if you don’t reopen the investigation and you don’t do the right thing with timely indictments,’” Prince explained.

    “I believe – I know, and this is from a very well-placed source of mine at 1PP, One Police Plaza in New York – the NYPD wanted to do a press conference announcing the warrants and the additional arrests they were making in this investigation, and they’ve gotten huge pushback, to the point of coercion, from the Justice Department, with the Justice Department threatening to charge someone that had been unrelated in the accidental heart attack death of Eric Garner almost two years ago. That’s the level of pushback the Obama Justice Department is doing against actually seeking justice in the email and other related criminal matters,” Prince said.

    “There’s five different parts of the FBI conducting investigations into these things, with constant downdrafts from the Obama Justice Department. So in the, I hope, unlikely and very unfortunate event that Hillary Clinton is elected president, we will have a constitutional crisis that we have not seen since, I believe, 1860,” Prince declared.

    Marlow asked Prince to clarify these revelations.

    “NYPD was the first one to look at that laptop,” Prince elaborated. “Weiner and Huma Abedin, his wife – the closest adviser of Hillary Clinton for 20 years – have both flipped. They are cooperating with the government. They both have – they see potential jail time of many years for their crimes, for Huma Abedin sending and receiving and even storing hundreds of thousands of messages from the State Department server and from Hillary Clinton’s own homebrew server, which contained classified information. Weiner faces all kinds of exposure for the inappropriate sexting that was going on and for other information that they found.”

    “So NYPD first gets that computer. They see how disgusting it is. They keep a copy of everything, and they pass a copy on to the FBI, which finally pushes the FBI off their chairs, making Comey reopen that investigation, which was indicated in the letter last week. The point being, NYPD has all the information, and they will pursue justice within their rights if the FBI doesn’t,” Prince contended.

    “There is all kinds of criminal culpability through all the emails they’ve seen of that 650,000, including money laundering, underage sex, pay-for-play, and, of course, plenty of proof of inappropriate handling, sending/receiving of classified information, up to SAP level Special Access Programs,” he stated.

    “So the plot thickens. NYPD was pushing because, as an article quoted one of the chiefs – that’s the level just below commissioner – he said as a parent, as a father with daughters, he could not let that level of evil continue,” Prince said.

    He noted that the FBI can investigate these matters, “but they can’t convene a grand jury. They can’t file charges.”

    “The prosecutors, the Justice Department has to do that,” he explained. “Now, as I understand it, Preet Bharara, the Manhattan prosecutor, has gotten ahold of some of this. From what I hear, he’s a stand-up guy, and hopefully he does the right thing.”

    Marlow agreed that Bharara’s “sterling reputation” as a determined prosecutor was “bad news for the Clintons.”

    Prince agreed, but said, “If people are willing to bend or break the law and don’t really care about the Constitution or due process – if you’re willing to use Stalinist tactics against someone – who knows what level of pressure” could be brought to bear against even the most tenacious law enforcement officials?

    “The point being, fortunately, it’s not just the FBI; [there are] five different offices that are in the hunt for justice, but the NYPD has it as well,” Prince said, citing the Wall Street Journal reporting that has “exposed downdraft, back pressure from the Justice Department” against both the FBI and NYPD, in an effort to “keep the sunlight and the disinfecting effects of the truth and transparency from shining on this great evil that has gone on, and is slowly being exposed.”

    “The Justice Department is trying to run out the clock, to elect Hillary Clinton, to prevent any real justice from being done,” he warned.

    As for the mayor of New York City, Prince said he has heard that “de Blasio wants to stay away from this.”

    “The evidence is so bad, the email content is so bad, that I think even he wants to stay away from it, which is really telling,” he said.

    Prince reported that the other legislators involved in the case “have not been named yet,” and urged the NYPD to hold a press conference and name them.

    “I wish they’d do it today,” he said. “These are the unusual sliding-door moments of history, that people can stand up and be counted, and make a real difference, and to save a Republic, save a Constitution that we actually need and love, that our forefathers fought and died for. For any cop that is aware of this level of wrongdoing, and they have veterans in their family, or deceased veterans in their family, they owe it to them to stand up, to stand and be counted today, and shine the light of truth on this great evil.”

    “From what I understand, up to the commissioner or at least the chief level in NYPD, they wanted to have a press conference, and DOJ, Washington people, political appointees have been exerting all kinds of undue pressure on them to back down,” he added.

    Marlow suggested that some of those involved in keeping the details quiet might want to avoid accusations of politicizing the case and seeking to influence the presidential election.

    “Sure, that’s it. That’s the argument for it,” Prince agreed. “But the fact is, you know that if the Left had emails pointing to Donald Trump visiting, multiple times, an island with underage sex slaves basically, emails, you know they’d be talking about it. They’d be shouting it from the rooftops.”

    “This kind of evil, this kind of true dirt on Hillary Clinton – look, you don’t have to make any judgments. Just release the emails,” he urged. “Just dump them. Let them out there. Let people see the light of truth.”

    Prince dismissed the claims of people like Clinton campaign CEO John Podesta and DNC chair Donna Brazile that some of the damaging emails already released by WikiLeaks were fabricated, noting that “forensic analysis done shows that, indeed, they are not fabricated; they are really legitimate.”

    “This is stuff coming right off a hard drive that was owned by Weiner and his wife Huma Abedin, Hillary’s closest adviser for the last 20 years,” he said of the new bombshells. “This is not from some hacker or anybody else. This is a laptop seized from a warrant in a criminal investigation.”

    Prince confirmed that based on his information, Abedin is most likely looking at jail time, unless she cuts a deal with prosecutors.

    “There’s a minimum of obstruction of justice and all kinds of unlawful handling of classified information,” he said. “Because remember, this laptop was in the possession of Weiner, who did not have a security clearance. And many, many of those emails were from her Yahoo account, which had State Department emails forwarded to them, so she could easier print these messages, scan them, and send them on to Hillary. That’s the carelessness that Hillary and her staff had for the classified information that the intelligence community risks life and limb to collect in challenged, opposed areas around the world.”

    “That’s not who you want in the White House,” Prince declared.
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  20. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Secret societies were out lawed years ago, I wonder what ever happened to that . Seems like may be they should be investigated and brought down as well.
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