What will happen to todays youth in SHTF?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by hacon1, Feb 8, 2008.

  1. hacon1

    hacon1 Monkey+++

    I read this on another board and it had a pretty good follow up of answers and comments. I would love to see some of the responses here!

    Today while driving to work, I came upon four fine shining examples of all that is wrong with this country. They were walking right down the center of the road. I pulled up and they just kept walking in front of me. Finally I gave my horn a tap, and they slowly moved aside. As I passed I got the one finger salute by one of them. Now, I am pretty sure, I could have still put the fear of god into these 'youths". But, I am smart enough to know that anything I did, would have done, I would have been made the bad guy. So I drove on to work. It got me to wondering what these people will do if the stuff really hits the fan? Mommies welfare check didn't come in the mail, no TV, no nothing, you have to work just to survive. Seems to me, that anyone to stupid to get out of the road when a car is coming, is not going to last very long. A nationwide SHTF may "cleanse" this country of an entire segment of the population.

    ETA: I know we do have some good young people in this country, and on this board, my comments were not directed to them.
  2. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    Interesting. We were just chatting recently about what (I think) will be a whole generation of individuals who have no clue. Not just those who depend on handouts for their daily bread, either.

    I would bet dollars-to-donuts that at least 60% of today's high schoolers couldn't grow a successful garden, don't know the first thing about raising meat, don't hunt or fish and are not used to physical labor.
  3. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    What's going to happen to them ? Easy.....big die off. Along with their equally useless parents.
  4. BigO01

    BigO01 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I wouldn't count on them going quietly , they'll need a little help .

    Stock the ammo deep boys n girls there are millions of them and hunger will make em desperate as hell .
  5. SeptemberMage

    SeptemberMage LaMOE Monkey

    Obviously you aren't seeing this the right way. This is a triumph of Education. Years of training have improved their self esteem to the point that it is second nature for them to assume that YOU should get the hell out of THEIR way.
    It is the beauty of being freed from the shame and burden of individual achievement. The way they collectively move and operate, is the proud example of doubleplusgood groupthink.
    Unburdened by the stodgy thinking of dead white people ideas like syntax and grammar, they can express themselves directly through interpretative alternative modes of expression. They were probably on their way to help remodel a community center with indigenous peoples inspired multi ethnic tribal art. While you were perpetuating the oppressive capitalist subjugation model of work = pay.
  6. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    They will walk around with game controllers in their hands till they starve to death.
  7. FalconDance

    FalconDance Neighborhood Witch

    ....... and this is why I made damned good and sure that my kids won't be ignorant when/if shtf!

    Sure, they like their conveniences and all that, but they've grown up knowing you should not/cannot/better not rely on the govt to bail your happy ass out whether it's something your fault or nature's. Heck, they'd be more likely to take those controllers apart to see if they have any scrap or alternate use [beer]!!
  8. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Some years ago, I went to my first Frugal Squirrel campout.......the gal that organized it ( and I use "organize" in the most loose of terms ) brought her two young kids with them.....one of them spent the entire weekend with his little face and fingers glued to some kind of electronic game thingy.......I'd have pitched that piece of crap just as far out in the lake we were camped next to as I could.......that's when I got my first of many clues that people off the internet were mostly full of shit when it comes to this prep/survival stuff.

    That has been confirmed now countless times.
  9. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    I bet you could include adults up to the age of 30-35 into this category, at least the one's living in the inner cities.
  10. SeptemberMage

    SeptemberMage LaMOE Monkey

    I am sure that's true, I know that I was one of those, I know I'm luckier than a lot of them, I have maybe the brains to see whats coming, or at least whats been lost. It is hard to change from the urban consumer mindset to a rural producer one. Especially when nowadays even the rural mindset, aided by the Chinese embassy (walmart), is so rapidly losing it's soul.

    Hell, I almost felt betrayed and definitely overwhelmed when I realized how much work and knowledge it takes for "simple" gardening. Or any of the things that really produce (gardening, farming, hunting, building, etc...)
    If your parents don't tell you, and the schools don't tell you, and God knows Hollywood won't tell you, It's no surprise that these idiots spend their whole lives expecting meat to come through a drive thru window, and vegetables to come off the last aisle of the supermarket.

    Upon reflection, I just feel a great swell of sadness for those poor bastards. Separated from God by federal mandates, separated from the earth by by consumerism, and separated from values by circumstances they will probably never comprehend even if they were aware of how lost they are.

    They are Forked. because I'm as sympathetic to their cause as anyone, but Ill put a bullet in the head of the first MZB that I catch messing with my rabbits or my garden.seesaw
  11. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    Tracy I think you are way too low on your estimate. I think it would be closer to 99.9%

  12. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    [applaud]brilliant dissertation;however you forgot to discuss the sexist oppression and misogynist (sp?) influences of their male dominated violent video games...[coffee2][boozingbuddies][boozingbuddies]
  13. SeptemberMage

    SeptemberMage LaMOE Monkey

    Heh, I learned it all watching Sesame Street ;)
  14. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    I'm sayin' 99.somethin
  15. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I figure that the youth (say 12-20) would stand a much better chance than most of the young adults (20-30 or so). I say his simply because while a LARGE portion f them would simply starve and die off, the younger ones would be quicker and more able to learn and adapt. The ones who are already out on their own and set in their ways would be even more lost and slower to adjust but the teens would still be able, once reality kicks them in the teeth enouph to knock some of the stupid out, to learn quickly and adapt. Good proof of this to me would be the fact that I know of very few kids who move out on their own after graduating that ae able to continue to live the same as they did at home. They get out on their own, life/reality kicks the stupid out of them, they figure it out, pick themselves up and do what they have to to eat and have a place to sleep. VERY few live/act the same while liveing with mom and dad (or who ever supports them) as they do say 6 months to a year after haveing a place to sleep and food to eat is their own problem.

    So I figure that their natural ability to adapt at that age would benifit them enouph to allow a lot of the to grow up fast and survive. Now the down side of that is that the easiest skills for a lot of them to learn would the how to steal and hunt people with supplies they could take and would likely still assume they were entitled to, but many of them would also figure out soon after wearing a few of their buddies brains/guts on their shirts that those might not be the best skils to try to use and would go on to 'hear the pop' as their heads are withdrawn from other oriphisus and watch, learn and imitate those who do know and even help/work in trade for basics.

    As far as their physical condition, they would be miles ahead of most even here. If you arent out humping logs and swinging an ax and really doing tons of heavey grunt labor then when you start doing so you will find muscels you didnt know you had as they scream at you. If, like me you are mid 30s and 'sort of' used to this type of stuff then they may quiet down in a week of continueing to do it but you will still be drained for some time and take quite a while to build up to it being no biggy. Now that fat whimpy 18 year old kid, he has been carrying around that extra 100 pounds of flab all the time so has SOME muscel mass too and as that fat melts off pretty quick (as a teen I started working out daily for sports and was no problem eating like a team of horses to drop over 80 lbs in about 2 months) AND he isnt gonna be hurtting after about 3 days and still has the energy of youth.

    I figure a LOT would be cleansed but a lot would also grow up and adjust quickly and stand a better chance than most of the sheep.
  16. Canadian-guerilla

    Canadian-guerilla Monkey+++

    ever watch that show, Dirty Jobs,
    some kids/people wouldn't even consider doing stuff like that because it is " beneath them "
    there's going to be a big attitude change, when TSHTF, especially with the younger people,
    when i'm at work i see new kids coming in looking for a job,
    right out of high school, the fastest " I QUIT " i've seen is less than 1 hour,
    some of these younger people just don't know what work is
    and that kinda scares me, you get a bunch of young punks ( 13-20 ) together
    with possible access to guns, raised on " kill & maim " videos, with no law enforcement

    how many points do i get for an ear ?
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