Where mass shootings come from

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by oil pan 4, May 4, 2021.


  1. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++


    You can see how this would work.
    Actually this shouldn't be in tin foil hat, but I got to get back to work.
     
  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    We must finally admit that our greatest law enforcement agency is no longer the good guys, quite the opposite, and anything they do must be highly scrutinized. They are the political jack-boots of a government that wants and is moving toward complete control. As such, the FBI can no longer be trusted or respected...more and more they are turning into a modern day Gestapo and a political weapon to be used as a Presidential administration, crooked or clean, directs... In fact, almost all the agencies are turning this way, the IRS, the EPA, etc...

    What is scary and shameful is that all their power comes from us, the people, whom they are suppose to serve and protect, since all their funding comes from us. Talk about irony or a double-edge sword...

    We want more freedom or to preserve what we have but we continue to support a government and their agencies that are doing the opposite of our will. It is coming to a crux though, a breaking point and most Americans have finally woken up to it. The big question remains if We the People will do anything about it? I fear not. I honestly believe that the majority will go quietly into their shackles without raising a word of opposition.
     
  3. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    No longer any rules ?

    I have to reserve any further comment except for those I have discused this with in the past. I told you so!

    Barefaced Thuggery Part 2
     
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  4. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

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  5. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    If shrinks will say this in public what the hell are they telling people behind closed doors?
    And what the hell is really wrong with them?
    Manchurian candidate grooming service?
     
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  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    My God,Please say that's a photo shopped picture?
     
  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Nope the. crazy eyes and donkey lips are hers
     
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Boulder CO, passed a law in violation of state preemption laws banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines.
    Then 10 days after that law was blocked aby the state guy with a so called assault weapon and high capacity magazine shoots up a grocery store.
    Wow what are the chances of that? That's so god damn convenient right?
     
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  9. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Who thinks the possibility of a shrink telling someone to "do it" is just crazy talk?
     
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  10. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey

    These are the times we live in and they make little sense to us.

    It is better to lie and steal what you desire than to pay your own way.

    It is the times of right is wrong and good is bad.

    A time when those dark forces seek our demise, so the way to their ideal society can be attained. We are just in the way. And they want us dead!

    We live in a time when our every electronic utterances are captured and stored for a future use against us. They have an ability to plant evidence on our electronic devices without our knowledge. Personal electronic security must be raised to a very high standard.

    We can trust no one in gubernment employ. We must be quick to judge rather than find ourselves fooled by the dark ones. They who draws their wages from the dark ones owes their allegiance them.

    These bad times are creeping up in their intensity so we may miss the changes.

    Be cautious.
     
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  11. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    FBI Thrown Into Controversy Over Damning New Report About Their Involvement In Whitmer Kidnapping Plot | The Daily Wire

    From dailywire obviously as I use mostly 4 letter verbs, 5 letter nouns and my grammar taint that good.

    Dw,,,
    The FBI was thrown into controversy on Tuesday afternoon following an explosive report that was published by BuzzFeed News that suggested that the alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer may have never even happened if not for the actions that FBI informants and undercover agents had in spurring suspects into action in what many critics called “entrapment.”

    The FBI reportedly relied on an Iraq War vet to provide information to the bureau about the actions of a group called Wolverine Watchmen. The informant, named “Dan,” allegedly became alarmed by messages that he saw being shared between members in the group and, after talking to a police buddy of his, was put in touch with the FBI.



    “Dan” allegedly wore a wire for half a year, collecting hundreds of hours of evidence against members of the group. “Dan” reportedly was paid $54,793.95, which included reimbursements, for his work over the span of over six months, which was “considerably more than most families in Dan’s part of Michigan bring home in a year.”

    The FBI also reportedly used at least a dozen informants, including some from other states, and also deployed undercover agents to assist in the process of setting the trap for the suspects.
    The report states:

    An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

    The report documents how a longtime government informant from Wisconsin set up meetings across the U.S. where many of the suspects met for the first time and where initial plans were developed. The informant even provided incentives for people to come, like food and hotel rooms.

    The report noted that “Dan” was told by the FBI that he could lie to the members of the group and that he just had to be honest with the FBI and couldn’t engage in committing any crimes.

    The report further noted that entrapment is a big no-no for law enforcement officials but that “confidential informants enjoy tremendous leeway to get the goods”:

    Informants in cases over recent decades have badgered suspects into committing crimes, paid them large sums of money to do so, and even threatened to hurt them if they backed out, according to an analysis by Jesse Norris, a professor of criminal justice at the State University of New York at Fredonia. In not one of those instances was the prosecution forced to drop the case.

    Dan reportedly taught the accused men military tactics on how to clear buildings and allegedly prodded members of the group into moving forward with their plan, including while they scouted out a cabin belonging to the governor where they had planned to kidnap her.

    The report said that at the Michigan Capitol, the men met 37-year-old Adam Fox, who was portrayed by the report as being the most aggressive member of the group, up to the point where he made other members uncomfortable with his alleged calls for violence and they ask that he not be included in events. But Dan, the FBI informant, kept Fox around, despite objects from the accused men. The report suggested that Fox essentially over night upon the news that Whitmer was closing down gyms in the state in response to the pandemic, an outlet that Fox used to deal with life’s stresses.

    The report stated:

    Fox, some of the Watchmen began privately remarking to one another, appeared to operate on a different level. On June 18, the Watchmen met Fox as a group for the first time outside the Capitol in Lansing at a Second Amendment Rally. He made a show of patting everyone down to check for recording devices — he failed to notice Dan’s — and seemed prepared to storm the building that very day. Fox’s plan A was to rush in and execute all the legislators on live television, according to court documents and testimony. If that didn’t work, there was always plan B, which was to lock the doors and burn the building to the ground with everyone in it. …

    [One member of the group] became convinced that Fox was out of his mind and repeatedly shared those concerns with Dan, court testimony shows. Morrison, the group’s commanding officer, also expressed reservations about Fox. But Dan used his growing influence to include Fox in group meetings and to develop his own personal relationship with him. Fox, in turn, began referring to Dan as his “brother,” according to Fox’s former fiancé. …

    Dan was now the Watchmen’s highest-ranking officer. He and Fox began planning in earnest, meeting up and spending hours on the phone. At one point, Dan encouraged Fox to “write a manifesto” of his belief system and his plans, but Keller, his fiancé, said she told him that was a terrible idea.

    The report noted that several other members of the group expressed reservations about kidnapping Whitmer, saying that they had joined the group for training. Meanwhile, Dan, who was getting paid by the FBI, was trying to recruit other people into the plot as the FBI kept pushing him “to use his influence to bring more people into the developing kidnapping plot.”

    The report noted that in the days following the takedown of those involved in the alleged plot, the U.S. government “were knocking on doors across a wide swath of the country, seizing computers and cellphones, asking about guns and, in particular, political ideologies, according to several individuals who were questioned.”

    The report noted how even a progressive black public defender, who was representing one of the suspects who flew a Confederate flag outside his home, said that he believes that his client was being charged not for his actions but his speech, and he did not believe that his client was a terrorist.

    And back to me.
    Imagine if you will a government agency that radicalizes citizens to entrap them in terrorist plots. And just maybe once in a while even facilitate a successful plot or 2.
     
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  12. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

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  13. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey+++

    I read a book on this written by a guy who obviously did not like or agree with Weaver, but dam did he ever burn t he feds and their illegal activities.
     
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  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Where do mass shooters come from?
    When Operation Northwoods meets MK ultra.
     
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  15. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    It seems almost all mass shooters, terrorist plots foiled and not seem to just about always have at least a "circumstantial" link to the FBI somewhere.

    Father of Pulse gunman was FBI informant, widow's attorneys say

    Oh shit here's another one. Just a coincidence I'm sure.
    Exclusive: The Informant Who Lived With The Hijackers

    I'm sure there's an FBI link to the Las Vegas shooter, but almost everything evidence and witness wise is unavailable.
    Another Vegas Witness Shot To Death — Tweeted “2 men chasing me with guns” at mass shooting – The Millennium Report
    Sounds spooky to me.
     
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  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Somebody's manchurian candidate went off the rails.

    Definitely the new guy running this op.
     
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  17. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    If the CIA handlers all go by GOD they also get the added benefit of removing the one thing holding back Communism in this country: Christianity.
     
  18. enloopious

    enloopious Rocket Surgeon

    This government is beyond saving. This is what everyone is funding with their tax money, compliance, and support. These politicians are the lowest rung of the crap heap and people actually listen to them?!?! How the hell do people not see that the government is filled with vampires sucking the blood out of our children? They work with the MAFIA hand in glove. Nobody anywhere should support the government. People need to grow up and say no to these dictators! Take responsibility for your own lives! We don't need them! Refuse/Resist.

     
  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Staged.
     
  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    If the federal government will intentionally and indiscriminately fatally poison at least 10,000 people blind a whole lot more to prop up a political narrative then they will definitely allow mentally ill pawns to shoot up schools full of little kids.
    Skip to about 7:10
     
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