Lots more info on Amaranth and seeds.

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  1. Mountainman
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    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter++

    TAC or anyone else have any growing and anything to post?
  2. Tracy
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    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member Site Supporter

    I'm holding my seeds, as I've been told that my property will be 'dozed this summer and anything I plant goes.

    This growing season; I'm living vicariously through all of you. :smile:
  3. Mountainman
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    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter++

    Well that sucks. Maybe some of the other people I sent them to will post as the season goes on.
  4. Tracy
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    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member Site Supporter

    It's not so bad. I've found the bright side: I'm replanting with edibles/medicinals. Everything!

    Now, instead of being bummed out about it, I'm looking forward to it. :smile:
  5. ISplatU
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    ISplatU Monkey

    Big Amaranth update

    In just under 2 months here is my Amaranth.
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    All pics that follow are the tallest of each.
    I started seeds inside and outside most of the inside starters are doing best.


    ROW#1 Love-Lies-Bleeding at 12", only two plants are still alive of the inside starters.
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    Row#2 Molten Fire one small weak looking 2" plant... No Picture

    Row 3 Elephant Head at 16", only four plants still alive of the inside starters.
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    Row 4 Red Garnet at 31" this is the 2nd best with five good inside starters, and two very small outside.
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    Row 5 Russian River Merlot THE BEST at 4' 11" WOW! Ten great plants from inside start, and five Ok from outside.
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    Row 6 Golden Giant at 19.5" is the only inside starter, with seven outside starters under 7".
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    Row 7 Red Leaf-Grain only one inside at 16", and nine outside with tallest being 13". This one has done the best planted directly in the dirt outside.
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    Row 8-9 Marvel Bronze at 20" all Eight plants are outside planting, because none from the inside sprouted.
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    Side note Red leaf Calaloo in part of row seven did not grow. Only two small weak 1" plants alive.
  6. Mountainman
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    Updated pics from my last pic post 2.5 weeks ago. The heat wave we have been having has made a great improvement in everything growing. Almost all of these plants are 9.5 and 6.5 weeks old, with the exception of a few that did not make it and were planted again. I am growing all 6 varieties that I posted about on the first page. Two of the red varieties are the fastest growers, Burgundy number one and then Hopi Red Dye.
    5 072710. 6 072710.
  7. ISplatU
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    ISplatU Monkey

    Mountianman, have you eaten any yet?
    I ate some of the leaves raw, in salad, and it tasted very healthy.
    I boiled some of the same leaves and it tasted great.
  8. ISplatU
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    ISplatU Monkey

    I found another source for alot of Amaranth, Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds. The most at one web site of heirloom Amranth, that I had found. I went ahead and ordered more seeds for next year, because you never know if we can buy them next year. I bought from them more Golden Giant, Green Calaloo, Miriah, Orange Giant, Thai Ruby, Thai RW Tender.

    I will be growing alot more next year!
  9. Mountainman
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    Have not eaten any yet. What variety did you eat? Tac had a post about not eating the leaves or seeds raw on the first page, but the link about it does not work now. Must not be fatal, your still around, ha ha. Found it:

    LEAVES
    "The presence of rather high amounts of oxalic acid and nitrates places some limitation on the quantity of amaranth
    leaves that can be consumed daily. The amount of oxalic acid is roughly the same as that found in spinach and
    chard. Excessive amounts (over 100 g per day?) may result in a level of oxalic acid that begins to reduce the
    availability of calcium in humans. This is especially a concern if calcium intake levels are low to begin with.
    Nitrate in vegetable portions of amaranth is a concern because it is hypothesized that nitrates may be chemically
    changed in our digestive tracts into poisonous nitrosamines. Evidence for this is lacking at the present time.
    Nevertheless, over 100 g per day may be an unsafe amount to eat, according to scientists. Boiling the leaves like
    spinach, then discarding the water reduces the levels of both oxalic acid and nitrates."

    SEEDS
    "We phoned Dr. Cheeke to get his perspective on the seriousness of these negative results. He told us that there are
    definitely toxins and/or anti-nutritional factors in the raw grain, and that it is less of a problem with cooked grain.
    He said that a scientist in Australia had been feeding raw amaranth seed to poultry as the major component of the
    diet. He found that chickens went into spasms, convulsions, and finally died. This unidentified factor causes liver
    damage. Other problems are caused by saponins, including unpalatability. But to keep this in perspective, Dr.
    Cheeke pointed out that there are few raw foodstuffs that do not have problems. Raw soybeans contain 10 kinds of
    toxins. Raw kidney beans will kill rats, but cooking eliminates the problem. The key seems to be to use the grain
    in moderate amounts, and to cook it. We asked whether we could say that there would be no problem unless people
    had little other than amaranth to eat. He thought that this was probably a fair statement. It is our opinion that more
    research needs to be done before we can recommend amaranth grain as a major ingredient in animal feed. To our
    knowledge it has not been shown whether these factors decrease the value of amaranth in human nutrition. Until
    more work is done, however, the feeding trial results must moderate our otherwise enthusiastic promotion of grain
    amaranth."

    Does not look like a real issue unless you go overboard eating it.
  10. ISplatU
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    ISplatU Monkey

    I ate the Russian River Merlot, as two or three plants grew in each spot. So as I thined the weeker plants, I ate them. I have eaten a small amount of the other types but just a leaf here and there. They taste close to the same raw.

    I have read alot about eating Amaranth. I do not have a problem eating the leaves raw, but I think I will always cook the seeds. You have to decide for yourself.

    I plan on trying to eat the stalks, as the whole plant can be eaten, and the stalks on my Russian River Merlot is about 2" in diameter. I just wonder how to cook it so it taste good. I have not tried it yet.

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