Not only do you need guns... you need bigger ones and good shot placement

NOt only do you need guns... you need bigger guns and good shot placement...

Wounded Grizzly Kills Hunter
A hunter was killed by a wounded grizzly bear in Idaho after he yelled out at the animal to lure it away from his younger hunting partner, according to the man's family. Steve Stevenson, 39, who shot the bear, died in the attack on the Idaho-Montana border. He was at least the third person killed by grizzlies in the U.S. since July. He and Ty Bell, 20, were part of a four-man hunting party from Nevada tracking black bears in the mountains. "They both shot it and it kept coming," Stevenson's mother, Janet Price, said. "Steve yelled at it to try and distract it, and it swung around and took him down. It's what my son would have done automatically, for anybody."



Read it at Associated Press September 18, 2011 8:16 AM

 

I didn't see it in the article, but I was wondering what rifle round they were using?

Also, as hunters they should be able to correctly identify the target. I know that Grizzly & Black bears may look the same but they are different animals all together.

And I agree, shot placement is the key. Years ago my dad and his cousin went bear hunting, the only thing my dad had was a 30-30. His cousin told him it wouldn't work. Well guess who was the only one to bring home a one-shot kill? Yup, my dad.

 

Like with any population - never piss off 'the Old Man'........

 

You fellows are not making me worry free. Have two sons new to Alaska's wilderness threats. They carry a 500 S&W and a 454 Casull. They have bought a little sluice box and have been fishing several times. I gave the oldest an extended mag 12 gauge Mossy plus he has several 30s to chose from. The younger has his 300 Weatherby Mag, 45-70 lever, and his 12 pump. They are well armed but still have not met any fur bearers up close. Hope their first goes well and preps them for others.

 

BTP,
Have you seen a S&W 500; I've read they are popular in Alaska.

440 gr @ 1,625 ft/s is one serious handful.

 

Not too many eons ( years) back I was contemplating moving to Alaska. My first idea was to contact Park Rangers and Fish and Game officers to see what they suggested I carry for the bruins up there.
I was told by everyone of them to carry a 12 gauge shotgun, loaded with slugs. I was even told they preferred the Brenekke rifled slugs. Then I was informedof where and how to stop a bear. Not kill it, as that's secondary....
Shoot the bear in the shoulder, breaking it...It can't chase or run after you. Then, you can take your time in dispatching it from there.
Seems like damned good advice!
Here in the desert, I rarely carry a tube load of slugs, mostly 00 buckshot...for them mountain lions, small bears, coyotes, etc.

 

Thats because they don't have one of these...

 

a single shot 50BMG...



Here are a few of the specs provided:

• Caliber: 50 caliber Browning Machine Gun (BMG)
• Type: Handgun/ Single Shot
• Practical Purpose: Sporting, Big Game Hunting (Tyrannosaurs?), Collecting
• Action: Scissor breach/separate cocking lever/separate case ejector
• Empty Weight: 12lbs
• Barrel Length:13.2" (9.8" to bullet base)
• Overall Length: 16.9"
• Standard Options: High efficiency muzzle brake, "Nitrogen recoil controller"
• Trigger pull: 1 to 12 lbs - Factory set to specifications

With 647gr FMJ ammo, using iron sights, the posted data says they gun is capable of a 1.8" group at 25 yards (from kneeling/supported position). This bullet comes out at 2188 fps, and delivers 6875 fpe!
With a 750 bullet (showing a ballistic coefficient of .82), the gun prints as follows:
Muzzle: 2160 fps and 7767 fpe
100 yards: 2070 fps and 7133 fpe
200 yards: 1980 fps and 6526 fpe
500 yards: 1700 fps and 4811 fpe
1000 yards: 1350 fps and 3033 fpe

 

of course you need appropiate protective equipment...

Maadi-Griffin 50BMG Pistol - YouTube

 

Nice article, Quigley

It's well written, informative and entertaining....a nice trifecta! : )

 

Maybe there's a place for a small gun 'n a bigger projectile

Not every fly fisherman has a guide with a big bore rifle at their 6 to provide bear overwatch. Maybe there's a case for something in the pocket or holster if you have nothing bigger at hand while you're working at landing that trophy trout.

A possible option (you can argue the merits of it or otherwise) is a 45 /70 derringer. It throws a 45/70 slug, perhaps with not quite the same muzzle velocity of a long arm, but with the option of a .410 slug to follow the 45 / 70. if the bear remains unpersuaded. It might not be much, but it's better than beating off a bear with a graphite fly fishing rod.


45-70 derringer - YouTube



M4 Alaskan Survival .45-70 Derringer - YouTube

or perhaps a Magnum Research 45 / 70 BFR

45-70 Revolver by Magnum Research , One Handed Shooting 45-70 BFR - YouTube

with the option of sending 5 rounds of 45 /70 at an aggravated grizzly. Recoil is a lot less than the derringer and re-cocking is much simpler.
(I'm not sure that they make speed loaders for the 45 / 70 lol ; ) )

Magnum Research maker of the world's most powerful handguns

 

Wow,,

what a recoil from that Derringer,,,,

Sumex

 

the big handguns might as well be 20 ga's, using slugs. Same level of power, but less bullet diameter. nobody considers the 20 ga a bear stopper, even tho an auto shotgun can get 3x as many hits as a .500 pistol, in the same time. So forget the pistol bs, that's all it is, bs. you might as well have a pocket 9mm, cause you are going to have to shove it up against his temple, under his chin, in his eye or ear to stop him.