I'll bet on them not having night sight inserts,

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  1. firekey

    firekey Monkey

    or a laser target designator and NVD googles. the odds are at least 100 to 1 in my favor. :)
     
    firekey, Apr 15, 2014
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  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Wrong again.... I have had NVDs here for a Decade....... My first was a Russian Type One...... Binocs
     
    BTPost, Apr 15, 2014
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  3. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    One word. Magnesium Flare. Ok, i guess that is 2 words. NV is not going to like that bright light.
     
    VisuTrac, Apr 15, 2014
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  4. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Easy mark for a road flare, too. I think I'll stick with flir. Nothing can hide that gives off heat.
     
    kellory, Apr 15, 2014
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  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    FLIR is a bit expensive. Not in my budget at this time. It's on the want list, but not the need list.
     
    VisuTrac, Apr 15, 2014
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  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    anyway @firekey I'd be careful what you are betting on. Sounds like you are holding Aces and Eights.
     
    VisuTrac, Apr 15, 2014
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  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    My NVDs can spot Vessel Running Lights at 15 miles.... Plenty of time to get the 1000Yd Weapon off the Wall, and out into the Bush...
     
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  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I trip My flood lights, and you'll be screaming for your mother.....they are intended to stun folks with just eyeballs....;)
     
    kellory, Apr 15, 2014
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  9. firekey

    firekey Monkey

    so? you bet your life on MANY things that aint 99+% reliable. I guarantee you that there aint 3 million sets of laser target designators, nvd googles, or luminous inserts (working still) in the entire USA. So my odds are quite correct, and you're wrong.
     
    firekey, Apr 15, 2014
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  10. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Sonny, you have NO Clue.... and are very close to going the way of GunKid.... ......
     
    BTPost, Apr 15, 2014
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  11. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    what good is a laser designator w/o a plane w/ a bomb? Unless you are working with the government.
    Just remember, that all thing technological are flawed and it always has a weak point, just like everything else.
     
    VisuTrac, Apr 15, 2014
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  12. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Um, no. There are many right answers, and most of the right ones are silent. Stealth is still your best bet for attack or defense. In the case of an EMP, you may be relying on five pounds of scrap metal and plastic. As a hunter, I know I could stalk most people, and they would never even know I was there. The only tool that you can truly trust is your mind. Stop worrying about gadgets, and simply learn to be observant.
     
    kellory, Apr 15, 2014
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  13. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Do you even know what a laser target designator is for? It is useless solo.
     
    kellory, Apr 15, 2014
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  14. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Well ask my son-in-law and he will tell you it does a helluva job on a retina.... he was shot in the eyeball with one and spent some time up at Madigan..... funny that was how I met him for the first time..... he was shocked when I walked in the ward first day he was back in country and said hello...
     
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  15. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Any decent laser pointer will do that, and without pointing out where YOUR head is, or even exposing yourself to fire. And for that matter....he has two eyes. Even complete distruction of one eye would not have kept him from killing his attacker.
     
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  16. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    a laser designator might come in handy like flares when a heat seeking missile is fired at a plane. If you had a couple laser designators in outer OP's and the bad guys were know to be using them, you might be able to attract a laser guided weapon to something other than it's intended target. I know, lots of variables. lol
     
    tacmotusn, Apr 15, 2014
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  17. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    If they have that kind of hardware, I have only two choices. Fade away, or attack. Defense ain't an option.
     
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  18. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Ah, I see. I was more seeing them as a tool used by military against another. I was thinking civ. vs. civ.
     
    VisuTrac, Apr 15, 2014
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  19. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Nope, that is not how they work... Each Designator has, besides a Laser, and Modulation Coder Device, that has Settings, of which there are thousands, that modulate the Laser. This Code MUST be loaded into the weapon, BEFORE it is Released, from the Sending Entity. If the Code is NOT the same, the Munition does NOT Arm, or Guide, on the Laser. This is a Fail-Safe Weapons System, that REQUIRES Comms between the Designator and the Sender. ......

    An inferred Seeker is a Fire and Forget System, where the Seeker set on the Munition, is locked on the Heat Source, BEFORE it is released, and then it follows the locked Source, until it either hits, or runs out of Fuel, where it falls with a deActivated Fuse.

    Radar Guided Munitions are similar to the Laser Guided Systems. The Radar is modulated with specific encoded Modulations that must be In the reflected Energy from the Target. This allows an AWACS Plane to light up a Target, from hundreds of Miles away, and a Fighter that is a lot Closer, to Launch the Munition, without activating its own Radar, and giving away it's position, to the Target. The Target needs to be locked into the Radar Seeker Head, BEFORE the Weapon is released.
     
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    BTPost, Apr 15, 2014
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  20. Mike

    Mike Ol' Army Sergeant Monkey

    interesting thread..... wondering about the fire dude
     
    Mike, Apr 15, 2014
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