Buying a safe- questions

ghrit · May 16, 2017

Brokor said: ↑

Renting woes. You *could* go with the most expensive you can afford, and the heaviest, too. This means you will have to pay to have it moved also. The suggestions here are very good, and you can get some pretty solid safes which aren't super heavy and lag them down correctly into solid wall studs and especially to the floor. .
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As noted, Moto's option to attach the safe to the construction might be a bit limited unless the landlord is willing to accept the "modifications" to his property. He might be willing to talk about it if the work to restore is less costly than the deposit. But talk about it must be done (obviously) before moving the weight in.
There's another possibility. You have no doubt seen those wires that hardware stores and gunshops use that are attached to alarm systems. If the wire is cut, the alarm is triggered which can then be transmitted to wherever the user designates. Why not just use something of that nature inside a light weight cabinet of the Stack-On types? Here's one example -
8 Gun Security Cabinet - Ready-to-Assemble -
These have holes in the bottom for wiring to warmers and lights (and for bolts if you want to tie them down) so no need to drill holes.

GrayGhost · May 16, 2017

Brokor said: ↑

Renting woes. You *could* go with the most expensive you can afford, and the heaviest, too. This means you will have to pay to have it moved also. The suggestions here are very good, and you can get some pretty solid safes which aren't super heavy and lag them down correctly into solid wall studs and especially to the floor. Most folks choose a corner and mount it flush so it will limit the area a thief can grab. One trick is to affix steel angle iron along the wall to limit their ability to jam a crow bar between the safe and the wall, using strong lag bolts of course. But, if you're anything like me, a security system will benefit you, too. Dogs are fantastic, and good neighbors help a great deal. I would mount it in the corner of a sturdy closet with a solid door that has industrial grade hinges and a high security lock and deadbolt. Less room for them to dig around and work, too.

You're either going to have to go super heavy and big and deal with the potential moving problem in the future, or go lighter and accommodate your needs as best you can. Home "owners" have the fortune to place a huge safe once and be done with it.
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Well said...covered all the bases.

arleigh · May 17, 2017

If I had a means , I would install a false safe , give the perps something to do that is virtually impossible and useless .
build a secret room and again have a hidden safe with in that room should it discovered.

3M-TA3 · May 17, 2017

arleigh said: ↑

If I had a means , I would install a false safe , give the perps something to do that is virtually impossible and useless .
build a secret room and again have a hidden safe with in that room should it discovered.
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I've seen a nifty closet that had a sliding floor - it had a shoe permanently attached to make a handle. Also, on another forum there was a member who had the real safe in his garage and used HVAC ducting to hide it.

TnAndy · May 17, 2017

3M-TA3 said: ↑

Many safes have thick doors that are actually made from relatively thin steel that been folded to look impressive. A thinner looking solid steel is much stronger. Also pay attention to how wide the gap is between the door and the frame.
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Actually, the doors are often the strongest part.....the rest of it is often fairly thin metal with a layer of fire resistant cement, and another layer of thin metal inside. A side grinder with a cutting wheel, a hammer to knock out the cement, and you can have a new 'door' in a few minutes.

3M-TA3 · May 17, 2017

This site has some pretty good information as well as other options: Gun Safe Buyer's Guide - Gun Safe Reviews Guy

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