Suppressors! Looking for advice!

I have been looking for YEARS to buy a suppressor and now I have the chance to.

I have been trying to ask information about suppressors but have been blocked from knowledge!

I have a arsenal ranging from 22lr to 45 LC! The weapon I will use most with the suppressor or 357, 45 and 308!

I have been looking at what is coined as a Jack of all trades suppressor! Can use 22-45-70 it's mostly going to be used on a rifle.

I have been told several times buy a dedicated suppressor for my weapon because they work better and are quiet! I understand that but my question has been this!

How many decibels quieter is a dedicated suppressor then the Jack of all trades? I have no one who will provide scientific information about spending $800+ more for a dedicated suppressor is much better then a jack of all trades when you are just starting out?

One I can use to suppress all my weapons the other only one!

 

Try this site for scientific rankings:

Suppressor Sound Rankings — PEW Science

 

Sounds like people have already told you but your not hearing what you want to hear. Good luck, Fin

 

The all in ones are trash.
I found even putting a 9mm silencer on a 30cal to be disappointing.
I say get one for 22lr, they are universally the entry-level silencer.
There's also no reason to put a huge center fire rifle silencer in a 22lr. A typical 22lr silencer is 1 inch in diameter, usually 4 to 6 inches long and usually weights 4 to 5oz.

 

Methinks you have never used a suppressor. To get the most effective reduction in noise the bore of the suppressor must closely match that of the weapon it is used on. Otherwise, the gas (and noise) escapes too easily along with the projectile. I have seen .45 caliber cans used on 9mm but there were the old design from the '50s that used wipes. And yes, the effect was greatly diminished.

I had the good fortune of working with a class 3 dealer years ago and learned a lot. The biggest thing was that suppressors are not "silencers". Except for a Jonathan Arthur Ceiner integrated suppressor on a Ruger .22, all had a report and many rifle cans still needed hearing protection. There was the one B-model Uzi he had that we called the sewer pipe. The can was 4" in diameter and longer than the Uzi at 20" long. It was Hollywood movie quiet to the point of only hearing the action cycle when fired, but affected the bullet trajectory enough to be useless past 10 yards or so. It used a stacked washer type internal configuration and strikes were frequent inside as the turbulence of the gas being stripped off would affect bullet travel.

Long story shortened....It's a waste of money to buy an "all-in-one" suppressor. It will make you sad when your .45 can does nothing to quiet your 9mm or .22. Also, the new breed of monocore suppressors do not use a logarithmic spacing for the chambers which greatly affects efficiency. This makes the bore to caliber mismatch in effeiciency even more pronounced.

 

I think you should wait a bit and see if the current Bill (HR 1) is approved by the Senate without change to suppressors. Should they leave it in its current state, suppressors will no longer be NFA items, and you will see a huge explosion in the market to include a huge price drop as new and more vendors come online and compete and more suppressors become available, probably within 6 months. However, we do not know yet how the Senate intends to handle the Bill.

 

You can always buy one, send it to the dealer and just never start the transfer to yourself, unless the bill dies.
If it does become law or the fudd backup version passes where they're still nfa but no $200 transfer tax, the price is probably going to go up and availability will be down for a while. With either bill everyone's silencer budget just increased by $200.

 

My banish 30 does a great job on the .223/5.56 and the .243 i have ran it on. I would not suggest using silencer central anymore though!

 

On Saturday I talked to one of the fellows at the range who showed me his one and only can. It has interchangeable front and rear sections, and can even change out the attachment end for different thread pitches. It was about six inches long. He didn't shoot it in my presence, but this is a guy who has a very expensive chassis rifle with interchangeable barrels, with a Nightforce scope. Possibly more money than brains, but I've seen him shoot. He's extremely accurate.

 

As noted above, I am not buying any new cans until after the current bills in the senate are sorted out. I have paid for more than enough tax stamps.

 

I plan to make as many as I can if the bill passes. I suspect many people will, or commission a machinist to do it. Probably see a huge rise in Chinese lathe sales too lol

 

I have used a 30cal center fire on a 556. It works decently but has significant size, weight and cost penalty over a 5.56 one.

 

Yea, i wanted something i could throw on a .270 or .30 caliber if needed as well.

 

Until fairly recently the only "270cal" silencer you'd find would be custom or from1. But 30cal would be fine. I run a 30cal on my 6.5mmanbun.
I saw a test where a manufacturer took their popular simple design 30cal can and simply drilled it for 6.5mm, they claimed a 3db sound reduction when both were compared to each other on a 6.5mmanbun.
You can reduce 3 to 4 db just by changing to a faster powder. I went with faster powder, accuracy went down and velocity was way down to nearly 6.5carcano levels. But it was quiet.

 

Is that size and weight difference worth $800+? No flame to you as I don't know your age of physical capabilities.

I'm kind of looking at this as do I want one suppressor that only works on one weapon at first or a suppressor that can work on all of my weapons maybe not the best but a suppressed 308 using a 46 caliber suppressor is better then no suppressor.

 

I think so.
The 2 closes examples I have of the 5.56 version and the 30cal silencer are the rebels sos. The 5.56 version is 1.38 inches in diameter, 7 inches long weighs about 8oz.
The 30cal version is fatter, longer, about double the weight and isn't as quiet as a 5.56 silencer on a 5.56.
I can reduce the number of cones in the 30cal rebel to match the 5.56 one but then it's a little shorter and more than a little bit louder.
I tell everyone to get a 22lr silencer for your first one.
I quickly discovered moving the silencer from gun to gun sucks. With the point of aim change.
Eventually I discovered I like monolithic core silencers that are easy to clean on higher volume guns.
Serviceable cone baffle ones for general use, they are quieter even on the first shot and work pretty well all around.
To get stupid movie quiet, definitely go integeral. For absolute sound reduction the gun pretty much has to be built around the silencer.
Oh and when you do a contact shot with a gemtech it will burn the gemtech logo into your target. May be good to know depending on what you're doing with it.